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Re: The Rubygems.org takeover

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Post by baggy_trough » Tue, Oct 21, 2025, 1:49 PM UTC

hshdhdhehd wrote: post #5

deedubaya wrote: post #3

All of this sucks, and it’s time for the community to move on. It’s a bad look for the ruby ecosystem. Continuing to rehash, throw mud, and speculate at this point likely harms the greater community more than any “side” would “win”.

It would have been a better angle to title it "gem.coop - the new homebrew-like place to get your gems" and then talk of the advantages for users and the simplicity of the file change to use it.

Maybe there will be later, but for now, there are no advantages for users (probably stability disadvantages) except political alignment.

Re: The Rubygems.org takeover

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Post by flat_zoo » Tue, Oct 21, 2025, 3:28 PM UTC

sgentle wrote: post #29

flat_zoo wrote: post #20

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I think you're not getting his key point, or you are but you're being coy about it. He did say skin colour, in the form of "native Brits". How do you know that? Because of the article he linked, defining the terms he was using. The article is called "Ethnic groups in London", not "Cultural groups in London". He quotes statistics about "native Brits" that match the article's demographics for "White British". There is…

He talked about Pakistani immigrants because they were raping girls and British police did nothing. Maybe "native Brits" are doing the same and getting away with it? Again, you are noticing what you want to see. We can discuss if it's because they are from Pakistan and their culture allows it, or maybe criminals have no nationality and that would be a valid discussion, but bringing skin color here is an obvious distraction.

Re: The Rubygems.org takeover

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Post by flat_zoo » Tue, Oct 21, 2025, 3:46 PM UTC

defrost wrote: post #25

flat_zoo wrote: post #20

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Hilariously he's talking about Londinium, a city founded and administrated by non native non British people as part of a foreign beachhead of control by a non British empire. "Native Britains" were excluded as residents or in tiny numbers for four centuries. London has always been a hive of culture, he's just pining for the nostalgic times he wore onions on his belt and was blind to the depth of culture in London. Th…

As a fun fact, both me and my wife can detect ex-USSR immigrant from afar (even those who have been living here in the US for some time). There is something different in how we look, walk, behave etc. Not wrong, just different, and not everybody of course. Humans are very observing when it comes to cultural code and a big part of it is subconcious, you don't even realize it.

Re: The Rubygems.org takeover

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Post by throwawaypath » Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 6:01 AM UTC

sgentle wrote: post #29

flat_zoo wrote: post #20

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I think you're not getting his key point, or you are but you're being coy about it. He did say skin colour, in the form of "native Brits". How do you know that? Because of the article he linked, defining the terms he was using. The article is called "Ethnic groups in London", not "Cultural groups in London". He quotes statistics about "native Brits" that match the article's demographics for "White British". There is…

There's nothing wrong with promoting or protecting the interests of native or indigenous people over those of immigrants or foreigners. The only "Brits" native to Great Britain are White Brits.

Re: The Rubygems.org takeover

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Post by throwawaypath » Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 6:04 AM UTC

sgentle wrote: post #16

flat_zoo wrote: post #14

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As I said, the Wikipedia article is what the words "native Brits" links to. Here's the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_London Here's what the article says: > In 2011, it was reported for the first time that White British people had become a minority within the city How could you possibly come to the conclusion that it's not about race? Do you think he linked to the wrong article by accident?

>How could you possibly come to the conclusion that it's not about race?

It has nothing to do with race, everything to do with ethnicity. Austrians are racially White, but are not native to London.

There's nothing wrong with promoting or protecting the interests of native or indigenous people over those of immigrants or foreigners. The only "Brits" native to Great Britain are White Brits.