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To quote DHH: "when much of the media reports a story like this, it's often without citing the specific words in question"

I think you lose a lot when you abstract away someone's words as "positions that alienate". Pineapple on pizza is a position that alienates, as is forced sterilisation of criminals. So here's some specific words:

> London is no longer the city I was infatuated with in the late '90s and early 2000s. Chiefly because it's no longer full of native Brits [ie white, as specified by the Wikipedia article the words "native Brits" link to]

> There's absolutely nothing racist or xenophobic in saying that Denmark is primarily a country for the Danes, Britain primarily a united kingdom for the Brits, and Japan primarily a set of islands for the Japanese.

He doesn't think brown people belong in the UK. His "positions" are racism. He's racist. That's the problem.

Where have all the enlightenment-values rationalist monks gone now that we so desperately need people to combine P and P -> Q?

Re: The Rubygems.org takeover

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post #12

To quote DHH: "when much of the media reports a story like this, it's often without citing the specific words in question" I think you lose a lot when you abstract away someone's words as "positions that alienate". Pineapple on pizza is a position that alienates, as is forced sterilisation of criminals. So here's some specific words: > London is no longer the city I was infatuated with in the late '90s and early 2000…

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Re: The Rubygems.org takeover

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post #12

To quote DHH: "when much of the media reports a story like this, it's often without citing the specific words in question" I think you lose a lot when you abstract away someone's words as "positions that alienate". Pineapple on pizza is a position that alienates, as is forced sterilisation of criminals. So here's some specific words: > London is no longer the city I was infatuated with in the late '90s and early 2000…

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Re: The Rubygems.org takeover

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post #12

To quote DHH: "when much of the media reports a story like this, it's often without citing the specific words in question" I think you lose a lot when you abstract away someone's words as "positions that alienate". Pineapple on pizza is a position that alienates, as is forced sterilisation of criminals. So here's some specific words: > London is no longer the city I was infatuated with in the late '90s and early 2000…

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As I said, the Wikipedia article is what the words "native Brits" links to.

Here's the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_London

Here's what the article says:

> In 2011, it was reported for the first time that White British people had become a minority within the city

How could you possibly come to the conclusion that it's not about race? Do you think he linked to the wrong article by accident?

Re: The Rubygems.org takeover

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post #9

Isn't this the reason why there's been such an uptick of talk about DHH lately?

Related, but not the reason for it. DHH has been posting increasingly racist blogs.

i checked. he seemingly limits his "i have a controversial opinion, let me explain why everyone who disagrees is disgusting" posts to once a month. i'm not sure they're increasing racist, but he's clearly becoming more and more enraged.

anyone so unhinged that they can't comprehend the value in not publicly attacking subsets of the population you might need to cooperate with, eventually becomes a liability for everyone.

Re: The Rubygems.org takeover

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post #12

To quote DHH: "when much of the media reports a story like this, it's often without citing the specific words in question" I think you lose a lot when you abstract away someone's words as "positions that alienate". Pineapple on pizza is a position that alienates, as is forced sterilisation of criminals. So here's some specific words: > London is no longer the city I was infatuated with in the late '90s and early 2000…

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His specific words were "it's no longer full of native Brits" with a link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_London

Then he goes on to point out more than sixty percent of the city were "native Brits" in 2000, but that number corresponds to the White British categorization.

Ergo he's conflating White British with native British.

He also said "A statistic as evident as day when you walk the streets of London now." Maybe he is extremely observant, but I don't think that follows unless he is talking about skin color.

Re: The Rubygems.org takeover

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Related, but not the reason for it. DHH has been posting increasingly racist blogs.

Not sure if I really believe that. The politics have been smouldering on forever. That governance event w/ Rubygems seems like a once in every twenty years kind of event. Unfortunately racist blog posts are like one every five seconds, you're kinda platforming somebody by trying to deplatform them for that. Like it or not 34% of people in the UK said they would vote for Reform https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/reform-uk-le…

People are coming to the realization that Ruby is a fundamentally insecure language. I've given my reasoning for this, though with respect to a discussion on static analysis, here [0]. Ruby, Rails, the library ecosystem, and the entire language, are actually one giant monolith, in that any one package, or really anybody with access to the runtime, can modify and monkey patch any other package. This is not a glaring security flaw at all, but rather a result of how "awesome" Ruby is in letting you make "Extensions to All Objects," [1] including core data types such as String, Array, Hash, and Integer.

Point the second: People are feeling emboldened to bypass rule of law and take matters into their own hands, up to and including taking other peoples' lives. Not only is this time fraught with political tension, it is also approaching the most crucial time of the year for ecommerce and online retailers - the holiday shopping season.

Put two and two together and it's not hard to see why people are scrambling to secure the software supply chain.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45104910

[1] https://guides.rubyonrails.org/active_support_core_extension...

Re: The Rubygems.org takeover

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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As I said, the Wikipedia article is what the words "native Brits" links to. Here's the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_London Here's what the article says: > In 2011, it was reported for the first time that White British people had become a minority within the city How could you possibly come to the conclusion that it's not about race? Do you think he linked to the wrong article by accident?

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