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Oracle makes move to kill open source MySQL

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Re: Oracle makes move to kill open source MySQL

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Post by ksherlock »

fatbird wrote: post #22
ddon wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MariaDB is already a fork of MySQL, and many developers from MySQL now developing MariaDB.

Isn't MariaDB the fork by Monty, the original developer of MySQL who sold it to Sun in the first place, setting off multiple rounds of cashing out?

MySQL AB also required copyright assignment for all contributions, which made it possible for MySQL AB, Sun and now Oracle to have full copyright over it. MySQL AB wasn't above throwing around GPL FUD to scare people into paying for a non-GPL license.

Re: Oracle makes move to kill open source MySQL

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Post by Sauce1971 »

I used to enjoy working with Oracle databases, but the horrible pricing and high need for dba maintenance was always discomforting. Switch for a while to MSSQL, but then the market for Windows apps disappeared. Have been using mySQL with very little sort of DB satisfaction. Now I don't know why anyone would not choose PostgreSQL for almost any project. Oracle is a bad apple, making money with methods aking to extortion.

Re: Oracle makes move to kill open source MySQL

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Post by lttlrck »

mbreese wrote: post #11
luriel wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it is easy: avoid anything touched by Oracle like the plague.

Unfortunately, that includes hardware too... A friend had 3 out of 13 Oracle servers die with random memory errors (persistent). Of course, if they had a 10K+ service contract they'd be happy to help.

How much did it cost to replace those 3 servers? >10K I bet...

Re: Oracle makes move to kill open source MySQL

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Post by spudlyo »

meritt wrote: post #28
dj2stein9 wrote: post #16

As mentioned in the comments see MariaDB ( http://mariadb.org/ ), an open source fork of MySQL from before the Oracle acquisition. Like Hudson, MySQL will live on.

I've been using Percona for a number of years now. Are there any solid comparisons between Percona and MariaDB?

MariaDB ships with XtraDB, Percona's modified InnoDB engine. If you're planning on using InnoDB (which just about everyone is) the differences are pretty minor.

The big difference is that MariaDB comes with the Aria storage engine, which is a crash safe alternative to MyISAM.

http://kb.askmonty.org/en/about-xtradb/

http://kb.askmonty.org/en/aria-faq/

Re: Oracle makes move to kill open source MySQL

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Post by jeffdavis »

spudlyo wrote: post #30

This test-case controversy was both discovered and ginned up by Monty and the MariaDB folks, who have much to gain by the rejection of Oracle's brand of MySQL and the promotion of MariaDB. While it may be part of some larger and sinister plan to "kill" open source MySQL as the article suggests, it seems more likely to me that it was simply a mistake, and one they'll walk back at some point. If it is an anti-competiti…

"it seems more likely to me that it was simply a mistake, and one they'll walk back at some point."

How do you explain removing access to the source repository then? Or the fact that the documentation is not free to redistribute?

Re: Oracle makes move to kill open source MySQL

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Post by crag »

mtgx wrote: post #20

It seems Oracle is on a trend to kill everything open source they've acquired from Sun. Java seems to be the only one left, and it would've happened already if they won the trial with Google, but I'm sure they'll do something equally dumb in the future to kill finally Java, too.

There are other open source projects at Oracle that are still "alive". Like Netbeans.

Re: Oracle makes move to kill open source MySQL

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Post by viraptor »

meritt wrote: post #28
dj2stein9 wrote: post #16

As mentioned in the comments see MariaDB ( http://mariadb.org/ ), an open source fork of MySQL from before the Oracle acquisition. Like Hudson, MySQL will live on.

I've been using Percona for a number of years now. Are there any solid comparisons between Percona and MariaDB?

If you're using mainly InnoDB and want more reliability / performance / less variance in execution time - go for Percona, that's what they're specialising in. Also you can use the company for support when needed.

Re: Oracle makes move to kill open source MySQL

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Post by fhars »

masklinn wrote: post #29
skymt wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't that what MariaDB is for?

MariaDB is by Monty, creator of MySQL who previously sold-then-forked it. So there's no guarantee the same thing won't happen to it (quite the opposite really).

He does no longer own the exclusive rights to the code (they are Oracle's now) and so can only publish under the GPL.
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