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RFK Jr.'S HHS Orders Lab Studying Deadly Infectious Diseases to Stop Research

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Re: RFK Jr.'S HHS Orders Lab Studying Deadly Infectious Diseases to Stop Research

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Post by sapphicsnail »

add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #25
sapphicsnail wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think most people realized they'd be gutting all medical/health research. It's also incredibly unpopular even among the right.

The most obvious explanation is that this was what Trump promised to RFK in order to get him to drop out of the race and endorse him. Anyone voting for Trump should have known it would mean RFK in power.

I'm not too surprised but I can see how someone who gets most of their news from conservative or even main stream sources would be surprised at how far the Trump administration is going.

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Post by nl »

jasonephraim wrote: post #17
willcipriano wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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The banner on that page immediately turned on my bullshit-o-meter. If you needed further proof: "There was no conclusive evidence that masks effectively protected Americans from COVID-19."

The header image ("Lab Leak") makes it look like they are implying Trump leaked from a lab.

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Post by neilv »

It's not clear to me that this story falls into the category of corrupt/insane/petty that a lot of recent actions seem to.

I don't know about this particular lab, but when someone was trying to build a BSL-4 in a dense urban neighborhood of Boston, there were a lot of protests, including by medical workers and scientists. It seemed there's a history of BSL-4 incidents, and the facilities aren't as secure as the salespeople claim.

So, it's conceivable that the stand-down is warranted. If so, a different question is whether safety is the goal, or it's merely a convenient pretext for some other goal.

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Post by naikrovek »

pixl97 wrote: post #9
naikrovek wrote: post #2

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>What the hell are they thinking? Maybe you're not from the US, or maybe you are haven't been paying attention, but during the entire election the party that won told us this is exactly what they were going to do.

I am from the US and I have been paying attention.

That doesn’t mean I understand wtf is going on in RFK Jr.’s mind.

Trump is the autocrat of the bunch. I understand his thinking. He is just the enormous parasite all the other little parasites are feeding off of, but that doesn’t explain anything. I need more information on … actually I don’t. The entire party is corrupt. There’s no way to know their rationale other than “scrambling for power” I guess.

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Post by giraffe_lady »

sapphicsnail wrote: post #15
pixl97 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>What the hell are they thinking? Maybe you're not from the US, or maybe you are haven't been paying attention, but during the entire election the party that won told us this is exactly what they were going to do.

I don't think most people realized they'd be gutting all medical/health research. It's also incredibly unpopular even among the right.

> It's also incredibly unpopular even among the right.

Where are you getting that impression? Sincerely curious, it seems to me most either don't offer an opinion or are in favor. Even in this comment section (or any other similar one on HN recently) you see people more or less saying this is a correct response to some covid conspiracy theory they're into. I would love for the right to turn on trump but I frankly haven't been seeing it, over this or any other issue.

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Post by bikenaga »

naikrovek wrote: post #2

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Someone submitted this link, but it got flagged for some reason:

https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/04/rfk-jr-s-anti-vaccine...

The author of the article, Beth Mole, has a PhD in microbiology and her writing is generally detailed and pretty good. I hope he doesn't really not believe in germ theory, but if that's the case, it explains a lot of the decisions he's making.

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Post by bigyabai »

willcipriano wrote: post #30
bigyabai wrote: post #20

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So... why exactly are we attacking NIH employees for the mistakes made by people living in Wuhan? A sufficiently nefarious interpretation of events might even implicate China regardless of how much America pays them. It already happened in Russia with Biopreparat during the Cold War, no reason it wouldn't happen again.

The Chinese can impose their own consequences, I'm not opposed to it. However, this is serious stuff, if accountability must be off the table we aren't ready as a civilization to mess with it. NIH did this under a "enhanced oversight" regime, the overseers need to be removed to start.

The Chinese will not punish Wuhan workers any more than Russia punished Sverdlovsk anthrax workers. And since you're not going to stop virology research by halting American capital, you're proposing a net-zero solution for America and a propaganda victory for the CCP.

How can you assert that Covid v2 would be "stopped" by withholding American capital? Coronavirus isn't American IP, and even if it was, you won't use that to force accountability.

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Post by t1E9mE7JTRjf »

op00to wrote: post #19
t1E9mE7JTRjf wrote: post #14

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Can you share why you believe that? I've seen him talk mainly about man made things (food dies, fast food, etc) so wouldn't have gotten to eugenics.

His statements on Autism?

Which statements?

As I see it he's talked about looking for environmental causes. This seems the opposite of genetic. Or do you see a different perspective?

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