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RFK Jr.'S HHS Orders Lab Studying Deadly Infectious Diseases to Stop Research
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>What the hell are they thinking? Maybe you're not from the US, or maybe you are haven't been paying attention, but during the entire election the party that won told us this is exactly what they were going to do.
I don't think that's exactly right. I think it's more like some of them were telling us they were going to do exactly this, and the rest vehemently denied it.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
>What the hell are they thinking? Maybe you're not from the US, or maybe you are haven't been paying attention, but during the entire election the party that won told us this is exactly what they were going to do.
I don't think most people realized they'd be gutting all medical/health research. It's also incredibly unpopular even among the right.
The most obvious explanation is that this was what Trump promised to RFK in order to get him to drop out of the race and endorse him. Anyone voting for Trump should have known it would mean RFK in power.
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#26"was told to stop all experimental work" - the word 'experimental' makes me wonder if the title may be hyperbolic. I don't infer from this story (article didn't feel right) that they will no longer be studying infectious diseases. Does anyone have more information on what the experimental work actually is? Or how it relates to the body of work carried out by NIAID.
“NIH has implemented a research pause—referred to as a safety stand-down—at the Integrated Research Facility at Fort Detrick. This decision follows identification and documentation of personnel issues involving contract staff that compromised the facility’s safety culture, prompting this research pause. During the stand-down, no research will be conducted, and access will be limited to essential personnel only, to safeguard the facility and its resources.”
Moss did not elaborate on the nature of the personnel issues..."
I'd be more willing to give them the benefit of the doubt if their MO wasn't to make unspecified and/or undefended accusations about persons, as a way to avoid being accountable for their agenda.
Re: RFK Jr.'S HHS Orders Lab Studying Deadly Infectious Diseases to Stop Research
#27"was told to stop all experimental work" - the word 'experimental' makes me wonder if the title may be hyperbolic. I don't infer from this story (article didn't feel right) that they will no longer be studying infectious diseases. Does anyone have more information on what the experimental work actually is? Or how it relates to the body of work carried out by NIAID.
It is our good fortune that we are not restricted to the headline.
In an emailed statement provided to WIRED, Bradley Moss, communication director for the office of research services at NIH, confirmed the halt in research activity. “NIH has implemented a research pause—referred to as a safety stand-down—at the Integrated Research Facility at Fort Detrick.
Re: RFK Jr.'S HHS Orders Lab Studying Deadly Infectious Diseases to Stop Research
#28"was told to stop all experimental work" - the word 'experimental' makes me wonder if the title may be hyperbolic. I don't infer from this story (article didn't feel right) that they will no longer be studying infectious diseases. Does anyone have more information on what the experimental work actually is? Or how it relates to the body of work carried out by NIAID.
Research can broadly be divided into three categories:
1. Experimental research: Form a hypothesis. Create datapoints by some process: could be mixing chemicals in test tubes, giving patients enrolled in a study a medication, pointing a telescope at the sky, or going out to the Amazon to count bugs. Use those datapoints to confirm or refute the hypothesis.
2. Retrospective research: Form a hypothesis. Use data that already exists and is archived somewhere to confirm or refute the hypothesis.
3. Descriptive research: No hypothesis. Look at existing data and/or published research and comment on trends or the patterns that exist therein.
"Experimental" covers everything and anything you would do in a wet lab. You don't need a wet lab to do research of types 2 or 3 - you can do that in an office or at home. That said, I don't believe we have any confirmation that they used the word experimental in the actual order.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
>What the hell are they thinking? Maybe you're not from the US, or maybe you are haven't been paying attention, but during the entire election the party that won told us this is exactly what they were going to do.
I don't think most people realized they'd be gutting all medical/health research. It's also incredibly unpopular even among the right.
I hope they remember this for local elections, and if we get another federal election
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Wuhan Institute of Virology and it's gain of function work that made coronaviruses more infectious was funded by the NIH.
So... why exactly are we attacking NIH employees for the mistakes made by people living in Wuhan? A sufficiently nefarious interpretation of events might even implicate China regardless of how much America pays them. It already happened in Russia with Biopreparat during the Cold War, no reason it wouldn't happen again.
The Chinese can impose their own consequences, I'm not opposed to it.
However, this is serious stuff, if accountability must be off the table we aren't ready as a civilization to mess with it. NIH did this under a "enhanced oversight" regime, the overseers need to be removed to start.