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Doge Is Trying to Gift Itself a $500M Building

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Re: Doge Is Trying to Gift Itself a $500M Building

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post #19

Click bait headlines allowed on here now? It clearly states they are giving it to the GSA which is the government - where the funds originally came from. Can't hand these people money without them complaining ..

No, nothing vaguely critical of the current administration is allowed here now. Astonishing really, I didn't think it would happen on HN of all places.

Re: Doge Is Trying to Gift Itself a $500M Building

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both are wrong. The "real question" just isn't about this specific case on its own. In a vacuum, this wouldn't really be news in the first place. The problem is the pattern that this is an example of, and together with all the other cases, it starts to reveal an image of the USA turning into a cleptocracy.

A Kleptocracy is when the government takes its own buildings from one department and transfers them to another department?

Where's your creativity? Then the other department sells the building "on the private market" (some Musk company) for a "fair price" (Musk makes an offer he can't refuse to himself) and Bob's your Uncle.

Have some patience, sheesh. Rome wasn't razed in day.

Re: Doge Is Trying to Gift Itself a $500M Building

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not an executive building, and they have not claim to it. They will take credit for the cost savings, hence "gift". This is not clickbait and can't be overstated, there is no precedent for this sort of action in recent history in the US. Your normalcy bias is the problem.

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Wait 'til you find out what the next tax cut (for over 400k households) is going to be funded by: 4T debt.

Re: Doge Is Trying to Gift Itself a $500M Building

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post #18

So, the government funds them, the President issued an order to dismantle them, and now another government agency wants the building? That last part seems reasonable. Whether dismantling them is right or wrong seems to be the real question here.

In what f'ng way does it seem reasonable. That is almost colonialist logic.

They invaded the premises.

Re: Doge Is Trying to Gift Itself a $500M Building

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post #26
post #19

Click bait headlines allowed on here now? It clearly states they are giving it to the GSA which is the government - where the funds originally came from. Can't hand these people money without them complaining ..

The US government was intentionally split into 3 parts. This "Institute of Peace" was established and funded by the US Congress. The Executive should be pursuing the intent of the legislation. In general they've been failing to faithfully execute the law. I'd be totally fine with Congress cancelling the whole thing, but it hasn't happened. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/22/4604

Which is a polite way of saying the GP doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about. Or they are trolling or filling airspace for the machine.

Re: Doge Is Trying to Gift Itself a $500M Building

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post #18

So, the government funds them, the President issued an order to dismantle them, and now another government agency wants the building? That last part seems reasonable. Whether dismantling them is right or wrong seems to be the real question here.

In what f'ng way does it seem reasonable. That is almost colonialist logic. They invaded the premises.

These people are probably beoynd saving. Up Musks "shit creek" if you will, with no map and no paddle, nor will to find one.

Re: Doge Is Trying to Gift Itself a $500M Building

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To be clear the United States Institute for Peace is not a federal agency. It's a non-profit buisness with an EIN 52-1503251 and a W9 like every other non-profit. DOGE seized a private business. If they can seize USIP they can seize your start up. There's no legal difference. Here's their 990 form: https://filing-service.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/scanned-pd...

Re: Doge Is Trying to Gift Itself a $500M Building

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Name a single major accomplishment of the USIP. That's the grift.

Whatever education system you went through and came out saying shit like that is the real grift. Think about it for a second. The USIP is a think tank. Think tanks don't accomplish things, that's not their purpose. Their stated mission is "education and training" ffs. Next time at least read the opening paragraph of the wikipedia article of an org you call a "grift" on the public internet, you'll look a lot smarter t…

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