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Re: Doge Is Trying to Gift Itself a $500M Building

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Post by DarkWiiPlayer »

_ea1k wrote: post #18

So, the government funds them, the President issued an order to dismantle them, and now another government agency wants the building? That last part seems reasonable. Whether dismantling them is right or wrong seems to be the real question here.

Both are wrong. The "real question" just isn't about this specific case on its own. In a vacuum, this wouldn't really be news in the first place.

The problem is the pattern that this is an example of, and together with all the other cases, it starts to reveal an image of the USA turning into a cleptocracy.

Re: Doge Is Trying to Gift Itself a $500M Building

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Post by DarkWiiPlayer »

AvAn12 wrote: post #16

What, Elon can’t afford another office building now?

Honestly? Probably not, no. He could convince some loser investor to lend him the money because he's Elon fucking Musk, but I wouldn't assume he has even that much money just lying around.

That being said, an office building or two he could probably fund by just selling some other assets, but he wouldn't have gotten this rich with an attitude of using his own money to buy things for himself.

Re: Doge Is Trying to Gift Itself a $500M Building

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Post by DarkWiiPlayer »

calculatte wrote: post #20
actionfromafar wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the United States Institute of Peace building the dogebags are stealing. It's hard to keep up with all the grift.

Name a single major accomplishment of the USIP. That's the grift.

Whatever education system you went through and came out saying shit like that is the real grift.

Think about it for a second. The USIP is a think tank. Think tanks don't accomplish things, that's not their purpose. Their stated mission is "education and training" ffs.

Next time at least read the opening paragraph of the wikipedia article of an org you call a "grift" on the public internet, you'll look a lot smarter that way.

Re: Doge Is Trying to Gift Itself a $500M Building

#24

Post by _ea1k »

DarkWiiPlayer wrote: post #21
_ea1k wrote: post #18

So, the government funds them, the President issued an order to dismantle them, and now another government agency wants the building? That last part seems reasonable. Whether dismantling them is right or wrong seems to be the real question here.

Both are wrong. The "real question" just isn't about this specific case on its own. In a vacuum, this wouldn't really be news in the first place. The problem is the pattern that this is an example of, and together with all the other cases, it starts to reveal an image of the USA turning into a cleptocracy.

A Kleptocracy is when the government takes its own buildings from one department and transfers them to another department?

Re: Doge Is Trying to Gift Itself a $500M Building

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Post by throwaway5752 »

SignalM wrote: post #19

Click bait headlines allowed on here now? It clearly states they are giving it to the GSA which is the government - where the funds originally came from. Can't hand these people money without them complaining ..

It is not an executive building, and they have not claim to it. They will take credit for the cost savings, hence "gift".

This is not clickbait and can't be overstated, there is no precedent for this sort of action in recent history in the US. Your normalcy bias is the problem.

Re: Doge Is Trying to Gift Itself a $500M Building

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Post by axus »

SignalM wrote: post #19

Click bait headlines allowed on here now? It clearly states they are giving it to the GSA which is the government - where the funds originally came from. Can't hand these people money without them complaining ..

The US government was intentionally split into 3 parts. This "Institute of Peace" was established and funded by the US Congress. The Executive should be pursuing the intent of the legislation. In general they've been failing to faithfully execute the law.

I'd be totally fine with Congress cancelling the whole thing, but it hasn't happened.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/22/4604

Re: Doge Is Trying to Gift Itself a $500M Building

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Post by lubujackson »

Next DOGE will defund gasoline in police cars and applaud their "trillions of savings" over the next 1,000 years.

I feel bad for anyone that is spending their lives on forums defending these puffed up hall monitors who were sent in to "fuck shit up" and will eventually end up in jail as scapegoats.

Re: Doge Is Trying to Gift Itself a $500M Building

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Post by SignalM »

throwaway5752 wrote: post #25
SignalM wrote: post #19

Click bait headlines allowed on here now? It clearly states they are giving it to the GSA which is the government - where the funds originally came from. Can't hand these people money without them complaining ..

It is not an executive building, and they have not claim to it. They will take credit for the cost savings, hence "gift". This is not clickbait and can't be overstated, there is no precedent for this sort of action in recent history in the US. Your normalcy bias is the problem.

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Re: Doge Is Trying to Gift Itself a $500M Building

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Post by nickthegreek »

SignalM wrote: post #28
throwaway5752 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not an executive building, and they have not claim to it. They will take credit for the cost savings, hence "gift". This is not clickbait and can't be overstated, there is no precedent for this sort of action in recent history in the US. Your normalcy bias is the problem.

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The elected congresspeople who voted to fund this should go to jail, even though there is no law broken? You are advocating for a wild system of government sir.

Re: Doge Is Trying to Gift Itself a $500M Building

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Post by surgical_fire »

DarkWiiPlayer wrote: post #23
calculatte wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Name a single major accomplishment of the USIP. That's the grift.

Whatever education system you went through and came out saying shit like that is the real grift. Think about it for a second. The USIP is a think tank. Think tanks don't accomplish things, that's not their purpose. Their stated mission is "education and training" ffs. Next time at least read the opening paragraph of the wikipedia article of an org you call a "grift" on the public internet, you'll look a lot smarter t…

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