As someone who owns a machine which gets reminders to update to Windows 11 despite not being allowed to, the whole thing is bizarre. There's no cited explanation for the TPM "requirement", and it's obviously not a requirement since you can turn it off. It makes me very suspicious that there's some ulterior motive.
TPM is used for BitLocker.
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Re: Microsoft cracking down people upgrading to Windows 11 on unsupported hardware
#32I'm surprised that anyone is upgrading older hardware to Windows 11 in the first place. It's shocking how many performance issues I've come across. Explorer bogs regularly. I can't game and stream a video anymore due to some rendering change that was made in Win 11 (I forget the details).
Edit: This is on a brand-new workstation BTW
Re: Microsoft cracking down people upgrading to Windows 11 on unsupported hardware
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you find yourself playing on there? Is it something that can be done with any distro, or is it something that some are more suited to?
Most games "just work" at this point because of how well Proton works: https://www.protondb.com/ The biggest issue is certain DRMs aren't supported in Linux yet, but others are, so it's just game dependent. I mostly play single-player, but the multiplayer games I do play work fine. I don't have Windows on any machines at this point. I've converted everything to Fedora Silverblue and it's fantastic.
Re: Microsoft cracking down people upgrading to Windows 11 on unsupported hardware
#34After a while updates and prompts for upgrades and 20 kinds of UI/UX across ever changing control panels / file managers, and my cheese getting moved here and there .... I gave up and decided if I'm going to get my cheese moved I may as well try a mac.
I've been happy and never looked back.
Re: Microsoft cracking down people upgrading to Windows 11 on unsupported hardware
#35As someone who owns a machine which gets reminders to update to Windows 11 despite not being allowed to, the whole thing is bizarre. There's no cited explanation for the TPM "requirement", and it's obviously not a requirement since you can turn it off. It makes me very suspicious that there's some ulterior motive.
TPM is used for BitLocker.
Re: Microsoft cracking down people upgrading to Windows 11 on unsupported hardware
#36Re: Microsoft cracking down people upgrading to Windows 11 on unsupported hardware
#37I built my own PC years ago and it came without a tpm so I can't upgrade. The motherboard does have the plug for a tpm so I bought a cheap one and tried plugging it in. Windows still doesn't recognize it. I did my best but the obsoleting Microsoft is doing here is heavy handed
How old is your PC? My 10 years old laptop has a TPM built into the CPU (Intel PTT), which Windows 11 is perfectly happy about once I figured out how to enable it in the boot options.
Re: Microsoft cracking down people upgrading to Windows 11 on unsupported hardware
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most games "just work" at this point because of how well Proton works: https://www.protondb.com/ The biggest issue is certain DRMs aren't supported in Linux yet, but others are, so it's just game dependent. I mostly play single-player, but the multiplayer games I do play work fine. I don't have Windows on any machines at this point. I've converted everything to Fedora Silverblue and it's fantastic.
Perhaps you included this in your DRM comment, but I think the biggest issue is anti-cheat. Most online games with a sufficiently large 'competitive' element require a kernel-level anti-cheat which won't work on Linux.
Vanguard doesn't work, and perhaps that's for the best.
Re: Microsoft cracking down people upgrading to Windows 11 on unsupported hardware
#39Thanks Linux and Wine.
Re: Microsoft cracking down people upgrading to Windows 11 on unsupported hardware
#40SteamOS cannot come to PC soon enough