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Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad family

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Re: Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad family

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Post by tibbydudeza »

samaltmanfried wrote: post #23

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Syria’s longest-serving detainee, “Ragheed Al-Tatri,” has been released after 43 years of imprisonment. He was moved through several prisons, ending up in Tartous Central Prison, and was freed with the last group of detainees following the fall of the tyrant Bashar al-Assad’s regime.

People crying crocodile tears for the fall of this dictator and tyrant.

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Post by tibbydudeza »

tptacek wrote: post #30
samaltmanfried wrote: post #23

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I would love for someone to explain to me why there is a cheering section for Bashar al-Assad. I understand what Hayat Tahrir al-Sham is. I can read a Wikipedia page. HTS: not great. Got it. But why am I supposed to believe the Syrian Ba'athists are (sorry, were) a fulcrum of peace in west Asia? Someone give me the pitch. Is it really all a fiendish plot to eliminate the meal of dinner?

Puzzling indeed - it takes all kinds it seems. Having lived in a facist police state it seems these coddled people have no idea.

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Post by Arainach »

tptacek wrote: post #30
samaltmanfried wrote: post #23

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I would love for someone to explain to me why there is a cheering section for Bashar al-Assad. I understand what Hayat Tahrir al-Sham is. I can read a Wikipedia page. HTS: not great. Got it. But why am I supposed to believe the Syrian Ba'athists are (sorry, were) a fulcrum of peace in west Asia? Someone give me the pitch. Is it really all a fiendish plot to eliminate the meal of dinner?

Russian propaganda operatives are active on every social network including HN.

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Post by postingawayonhn »

samaltmanfried wrote: post #23

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I'm not sure there is any particular evidence for America or Israel aiding them.

Also while originally an offshoot of Al Qaeda they do appear to have moderated significantly, working with many different religious and ethnic groups. I'm cautiously optimistic.

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Post by realusername »

samaltmanfried wrote: post #23

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The Syrian civil war started before any other country got involved, I think people tend to forget about that. And Assad was pretty much as bad as gets, he went as far as to gas his own population, secular wasn't exactly the first thing which comes to mind to describe him.

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Post by arcticbull »

tptacek wrote: post #30
samaltmanfried wrote: post #23

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I would love for someone to explain to me why there is a cheering section for Bashar al-Assad. I understand what Hayat Tahrir al-Sham is. I can read a Wikipedia page. HTS: not great. Got it. But why am I supposed to believe the Syrian Ba'athists are (sorry, were) a fulcrum of peace in west Asia? Someone give me the pitch. Is it really all a fiendish plot to eliminate the meal of dinner?

As someone who's been to Syria, I can't place it either. There's no way this is worse that what came before -- especially since the status quo was propped up by Russia. This is at worst neutral and has a full spectrum of better potential outcomes. Sometimes, occasionally, any change is good. This is one of those times.

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Post by bloomingkales »

doshaa wrote: post #27
samaltmanfried wrote: post #23

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This is extremely reductive, the asaad regime ( current and previous ) had to go, they've caused immense pain to syrians since the 80s.. The idea that this is some consorted effort by global hegemony to topple them ignores the effort of the rebels themselves, and how much the war in ukraine have costed russia..

Syria became a proxy flexing ground for Russia. We are about to enter negotiations on a major war. We have all kinds of money and rockets moving around the world in deliberate subversive ways.

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Post by csomar »

mongol wrote: post #4

Who are likely to control Syria now? Will Syria become an islamic state?

Still too early to tell. My guess is that this will degenerate into a new war between the friends who allied against Assad. So some mutant like ISIS will probably prop up.

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Post by lukan »

samaltmanfried wrote: post #23

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"There's no other way to view this."

America supports the (mostly kurdish) SDF, has even ground forces there with them. The SDF is at constant war with the turkish backed opposition.

They are quite secular, too. Socialist or communist even.

But they took part in that they advanced and prevented new Iranian/Iraqui Militias to get into Syria, by taking a important highway. Likely because of hidden deals.

In other words, there are many ways to view this, it is really not a simple conflict as you make it. And I hope some stability will now come, but I don't see how.

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