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Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

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Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

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Post by hackerlight »

wkat4242 wrote: post #17
gamesbrainiac wrote: post #7

It’s GPT 3.5 though.

Much faster, 10x cheaper and still good enough for most things. I don't think gpt-4 is worth its 10fold price premium for all but niche usecases (coding may be one but I don't do that too much). And the much longer response delays are annoying. I think 3.5 turbo is a really nice general use model. And the price difference makes it worry free (I use it a lot and most months I used less than $1) whereas gpt-4 really te…

I recommend free access Bard (Gemini Pro, which is better than GPT-3.5) for the miscellaneous requests and GPT-4 if you need quality.

Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

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Post by HKH2 »

gamesbrainiac wrote: post #7

It’s GPT 3.5 though.

Still great. The better students get at writing prompts, the better they get at formulating what they want, learning to be more precise, and seeing how what they say could be confusing. Think of how search engines [used to] train people to use basic logic to disambiguate.

Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

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Post by mepian »

weird-eye-issue wrote: post #30
behnamoh wrote: post #26

Why not use a combination of open source and OpenAI models? GPT-3.5 is already beaten by Mixtral and Mistral-Medium. The first one you can host for free and the second has a darn cheap API while getting really close to GPT-4 performance.

"GPT-3.5 is already beaten by Mixtral and Mistral-Medium" Not really relevant when they will be using GPT-4, is it? Plus the powerful features from code interpreter is a night and day difference Not everything is worth saving a bit of money to get worse performance from something that has a worse network effect

The article says GPT-3.5 though.

Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

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Post by philip1209 »

lukew3 wrote: post #13

Why are they buying licenses for it? To promote student equality?

I bet it has to do with laws around processing of data for children.

From the ChatGPT terms:

> Minimum Age. You must be at least 13 years old or the minimum age required in your country to consent to use the Services. If you are under 18 you must have your parent or legal guardian’s permission to use the Services.

Source: https://openai.com/policies/terms-of-use

Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

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Post by HKH2 »

Swizec wrote: post #23
monkaiju wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If chatgpt was a more sophisticated tool for engaging with the same concepts that would be similar, but its not. Chatgpt isnt a pencil vs a typewriter, its a stochastic parrot, one of the worst applications i could imagine it being used for is helping develop young peoples' world views.

> one of the worst applications i could imagine it being used for is helping develop young peoples' world views As opposed to straight up government propaganda in textbooks? At least chatgpt averages out everyone’s propaganda. edit for clarity: this comment applies to history books, literature, stuff like that. If you look carefully you’ll notice they’re full of stuff designed to instill a sense of national identity…

You get an American-centric perspective, which is of course the correct one.

Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

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Post by MattGaiser »

behnamoh wrote: post #26

Why not use a combination of open source and OpenAI models? GPT-3.5 is already beaten by Mixtral and Mistral-Medium. The first one you can host for free and the second has a darn cheap API while getting really close to GPT-4 performance.

So neither is easily usable out of the box? That seems to be a significant barrier to adoption.

Is a school supposed to set up infrastructure for all of that themselves?

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