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Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it's not

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Re: Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it's not

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I think this is like a modern example of the Apple Newton in the sense it's impressive, has uses, but it too soon to be widely adopted. I think this device will flounder, early adopters will struggle to make full use of it because of all the compromises. Take it on the plane? Why? It will run out of power in 1-2 hrs (if you remembered the full charge before you board). Lugging all that bulk just for a movie on the pl…

When all plane seats seem to have power these days, is the battery in a plane really a limitation? Can’t it charge while being used?

Re: Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it's not

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The whole thing feels very ... "original xbox" to me. Hear me out. It was argued that a big part of the original xbox for Microsoft was making sure they had a toehold in the gaming console market because that market had a change of disrupting the personal computer - and if that happened, they wanted to be there for it and have something ready to go. They did something similar with phones, and we can see how it specta…

I could imagine that might have been why it came about originally but that line of thinking doesn't seem to justify the R&D spend alone. I'd imagine they have some belief in it being able to make new business of its own. If I'm not mistaken this is the first properly post-Steve product?

I think AirPods were post-Steve? And they were both widely mocked at launch and wildly successful.

Re: Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it's not

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I would prefer to bring an iPad on the plane.

Depends. On a 2 hour flight - yeah. On a 16 hour flight (with power in the seats) - no.

On a 16 hour flight you can watch the onscreen entertainment, use your wireless laptop, your wireless tablet and your wireless phone. I’ve travelled a bit and usually alternate among them.

But the Vision Pro would need two cables (power brick and battery pack, which is required even when plugged in to the brick) and when you get up to use the bathroom your neighbor will absolutely trip crossing your seat and land their ass on the Vision Pro you left behind.. that you don’t want to wear into the cramped airplane bathroom.

Re: Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it's not

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Oh boy: "Listen to me, do you want to use a computer that is always looking at your hands?" It took a second for that warning to sink in.

Someone at Apple had to design the watch to detect certain hand motions and purposely ignore them . That's a thing that someone had to do, otherwise false positives would be embarrassingly pasted across the Internet for to be laughed at.

Shouldn't the watch be on your non-dominant hand?

Re: Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it's not

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Some other early reviews that are up:

CNET - Apple Vision Pro Review: A Mind-Blowing Look at an Unfinished Future

https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/apple-vision-pro-review-...

WSJ - Apple Vision Pro Review: The Best Headset Yet Is Just a Glimpse of the Future

https://www.wsj.com/tech/apple-vision-pro-review-39f2d82e?mo...

Tom's Hardware - Apple Vision Pro review: A revolution in progress

https://www.tomsguide.com/computing/smart-glasses/apple-visi...

CNBC - Apple Vision Pro review: This is the future of computing and entertainment

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/30/apple-vision-pro-review-the-...

Re: Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it's not

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This is a very in-depth, informative and factual review. My hats off to the Verge; great job. I have racked up hours upon hours of actual, productive work in my Quest 2 and 3, so to say that I am a big proponent of the ideas that Apple is trying to advance would be an understatement. This makes me all the more disheartened to read that, for all their efforts, this release is mired by the same drawbacks that I have en…

The whole thing feels very ... "original xbox" to me. Hear me out. It was argued that a big part of the original xbox for Microsoft was making sure they had a toehold in the gaming console market because that market had a change of disrupting the personal computer - and if that happened, they wanted to be there for it and have something ready to go. They did something similar with phones, and we can see how it specta…

Good analysis.

Part of it too is that Apple feels pressure to do something innovative. They made some big bets in the 2000s that paid off very well but a company that has a hit like the iPhone becomes profoundly conservative. The trouble is that there aren't many market opportunities bigger than smartphones, there's a possible iCar and an iHouse and that's about it.

Apple's worst fear might be being successful as a niche product: what if every seat of Dassault 3Dexperience ends up with an Apple Vision Pro? Apple might be left with the maintenance burden forever but no real prospects for a mainstream product.

Re: Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it's not

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post #10

Oh boy: "Listen to me, do you want to use a computer that is always looking at your hands?" It took a second for that warning to sink in.

Someone at Apple had to design the watch to detect certain hand motions and purposely ignore them . That's a thing that someone had to do, otherwise false positives would be embarrassingly pasted across the Internet for to be laughed at.

No, it’s all ML models. It is very unlikely that an ML model trained on wrist motions for walking and running would falsely report steps for… other activities.

Re: Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it's not

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This is a very in-depth, informative and factual review. My hats off to the Verge; great job. I have racked up hours upon hours of actual, productive work in my Quest 2 and 3, so to say that I am a big proponent of the ideas that Apple is trying to advance would be an understatement. This makes me all the more disheartened to read that, for all their efforts, this release is mired by the same drawbacks that I have en…

The whole thing feels very ... "original xbox" to me. Hear me out. It was argued that a big part of the original xbox for Microsoft was making sure they had a toehold in the gaming console market because that market had a change of disrupting the personal computer - and if that happened, they wanted to be there for it and have something ready to go. They did something similar with phones, and we can see how it specta…

Originall XBox was also a money sink for Microsoft, bleeding money, bringing everyone on board to develop for it.

Modern Apple is anything like that.

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