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I did not see any beauty on WP,to me, WP is harder to us /understand than webOS/iOS/BlackBerry/Android.
Really? Have you used it?
I used to think WP was great , until I used it for a while. MS + Nokia, beautiful?
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#32I don't know why the other comment's been killed, but this is blogspam. Original story here, from the ones that actually interviewed Wozniak: http://anewdomain.net/2012/04/26/apple-founder-inventor-stev...
That original post didn't really emphasize the interesting part, so I'd argue that the secondary blog posts that picked up this story are, in this case, actually more useful to the average reader. Still, it probably would've been better to link to WPCentral (http://www.wpcentral.com/co-founder-apple-steve-wozniak-choo...) which first found out about the interview and dug up the quotes.
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#33The anal-retentiveness required to honestly differentiate between navigating an iphone and an android is ridiculous. They both have grids of 4 icons wide. Android scrolls vertically, iphone scrolls horizontally. You touch the icon to launch app. The idea that there is room between android and iOS for a 2nd favorite mobile OS, based upon navigation of app screens is laughable. Either its better than both of them, or i…
There is a gigantic difference in how an Android and iPhone navigate. Develop the same app for both and you will see that clearly. The big difference is Android uses a standard back button for all applications. This leads Android users to end up mashing a lot of buttons at random, to try and get what they want - it's actually quite a bad UI, and it was just translated from the web clumsily. On iPhone, each app has it…
>There is a gigantic difference in how an Android and iPhone navigate. Develop the same app for both and you will see that clearly.
Still, both Android and iOS are more similar to each other and this than anything else:
http://images.yourdictionary.com/images/computer/_PROGMAN.GI...
Meanwhile Metro is completely new take on UI and much more different than the "gigantic" difference that you speak about.
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#34webOS was more beautiful and intuitive than iOS, too. It still didn't end up too well for it.
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#35I <3 Windows Phone
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#36The anal-retentiveness required to honestly differentiate between navigating an iphone and an android is ridiculous. They both have grids of 4 icons wide. Android scrolls vertically, iphone scrolls horizontally. You touch the icon to launch app. The idea that there is room between android and iOS for a 2nd favorite mobile OS, based upon navigation of app screens is laughable. Either its better than both of them, or i…
There is a gigantic difference in how an Android and iPhone navigate. Develop the same app for both and you will see that clearly. The big difference is Android uses a standard back button for all applications. This leads Android users to end up mashing a lot of buttons at random, to try and get what they want - it's actually quite a bad UI, and it was just translated from the web clumsily. On iPhone, each app has it…
>The big difference is Android uses a standard back button for all applications
And this is the first thing I mention about why I like Android better.
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There is a gigantic difference in how an Android and iPhone navigate. Develop the same app for both and you will see that clearly. The big difference is Android uses a standard back button for all applications. This leads Android users to end up mashing a lot of buttons at random, to try and get what they want - it's actually quite a bad UI, and it was just translated from the web clumsily. On iPhone, each app has it…
The Reality Distortion Field is strong in this one. So if I understand what you're saying, android's back button causes users to randomly mash buttons in frothy fits of delirium, yet iOS's back button provides zen like enlightenment and happy endings. Pushing the back button on an android phone, by default ALWAYS goes to the previous activity, or cancels context menus. Of course, it's possible to make the android bac…
> Pushing the back button on an android phone, by default ALWAYS goes to the previous activity.
Good if it is the only apps you are using. But what if you switch to use others app for a while and switch back to this app. Can you remember the activity stack as of all the apps good as the OS does? Can you predict where back button is going to take you after not using the phone for half an hours?
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#38For years MS genes to arrive late and win worked: Windows after Apple, Word after Word-perfect, Excel after Lotus/Borland, networks after Novel, Xbox after Nintendo. They didn't succeed to change this mode, although it doesn't work anymore (search, Zune, mobile). Future is for leaders or way-fast movers.
Microsoft won for one simple reason -- the licensing deal for DOS. (Not that it wasn't smart and ruthless and good at executing.) IBM made DOS the dominant desktop OS, and the licensing deal allowed Microsoft to enable clone makers to displace IBM (without displacing DOS). Microsoft's legendary persistence -- fast following rival products and iterating them until they didn't suck and eventually drove competitors out…
>Microsoft won for one simple reason -- the licensing deal for DOS
I think bigger and gutsy move was licensing DOS/Windows to Compaq inspite of IBM not being happy with it. Microsoft could've had an Apple like vertical integration(and immense profits) by making hardware too, but never made PCs. Licensing to PC clones drove the prices of PCs down and made them affordable to a wide swath of the world and helping the Internet come about. If computers cost $3000 like back in the day, adoption would have been quite low.
>Microsoft's legendary persistence -- fast following rival products and iterating them until they didn't suck and eventually drove competitors out of business -- would have been fruitless without the dominant position IBM simply handed to Microsoft with the original DOS deal.
Sure, but lots of companies have a lot of money to throw around but the difference with Microsoft was they kept at it and waited for missteps from competition while continuously making improvements. Eg. Netscape with the big rewrite http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html or more recently, Sony with the PS3 security issues and Move.
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On the other hand he did say he still prefered the iPhone
I did not see any beauty on WP,to me, WP is harder to us /understand than webOS/iOS/BlackBerry/Android.
Beauty is a personal preference and lots of people like it and I guess you do not. But I am not with you on the "harder to use/understand" part. It's extremely simple, intuitive and easy to pick up, I've seen non-techies pick the UI up very quickly.
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#40The irony of this is that, with Android 4.x and the Fragment APIs for scaling UI from tablets to handsets, Android is the only UI system that has sophisticated ways for apps to intelligently arrange their UI elements to fit all sizes of devices, and developers are, as yet, ignoring those APIs.
Android Fragments really aren't useful when A) you can't use them yet because so many users are on older unsupported versions (insert generic "fragmentation" pun here) and B) you still can't smoothly scroll a ListView containing more than a dozen Views or a few text shadows.