"more beautiful than android and iPhone "... talk about burying the lead.
On the other hand he did say he still prefered the iPhone
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#12"more beautiful than android and iPhone "... talk about burying the lead.
Indeed. Although he does actually prefer the iPhone.
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#13For years MS genes to arrive late and win worked: Windows after Apple, Word after Word-perfect, Excel after Lotus/Borland, networks after Novel, Xbox after Nintendo. They didn't succeed to change this mode, although it doesn't work anymore (search, Zune, mobile). Future is for leaders or way-fast movers.
The future will be like the past, because in the past, the future was like the past.
Clever, eh? You must be proud.
Still, there is a lesson: The entrenched leaders have harder time to catch-up if they miss , and it's not only MS. These are good news.
The future is not like the past because back then MS could easily lag and still take the market later. Now they can't.
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#14The anal-retentiveness required to honestly differentiate between navigating an iphone and an android is ridiculous. They both have grids of 4 icons wide. Android scrolls vertically, iphone scrolls horizontally. You touch the icon to launch app. The idea that there is room between android and iOS for a 2nd favorite mobile OS, based upon navigation of app screens is laughable. Either its better than both of them, or i…
There is a gigantic difference in how an Android and iPhone navigate. Develop the same app for both and you will see that clearly.
The big difference is Android uses a standard back button for all applications. This leads Android users to end up mashing a lot of buttons at random, to try and get what they want - it's actually quite a bad UI, and it was just translated from the web clumsily.
On iPhone, each app has its own navigation method, based on the requirements of the app. The main nav options for an iPhone app are:
* a navigation bar that stacks a series of views, with a back button.
* a tab bar which gives a 4-5 ever-present options on bottom
* a single view with buttons for menus
Even when you implement a nav bar for an app, which is similar to Android, it's much better, because the stack of views is deterministic. You can never tell what the Back button will do on an Android app.
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#16I have played around a bit with a Lumia some weeks ago (it was available earlier in Europe), and I have to say I was quite disappointed. Microsoft waited too long with screen resolution upgrades, and its low resolution makes it feel like an Android from 2 years ago. That makes it hard to trump modern Androids like the Galaxy Nexus UI-beauty-wise.
The navigation paradigma Microsoft uses is not for me, I prefer Apple's more natural approach. Also, most apps in the store look the same (establishing context by design, anyone?) because there are only so many possibilities of laying out monochrome elements (mostly HUGE text) on a black or photo background. But I'm clearly not part of the intended audience, Woz demonstrates that there are people who like that.
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#17The anal-retentiveness required to honestly differentiate between navigating an iphone and an android is ridiculous. They both have grids of 4 icons wide. Android scrolls vertically, iphone scrolls horizontally. You touch the icon to launch app. The idea that there is room between android and iOS for a 2nd favorite mobile OS, based upon navigation of app screens is laughable. Either its better than both of them, or i…
There is a gigantic difference in how an Android and iPhone navigate. Develop the same app for both and you will see that clearly. The big difference is Android uses a standard back button for all applications. This leads Android users to end up mashing a lot of buttons at random, to try and get what they want - it's actually quite a bad UI, and it was just translated from the web clumsily. On iPhone, each app has it…
At least you always know where that back button on Android.
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#18I don't know why the other comment's been killed, but this is blogspam. Original story here, from the ones that actually interviewed Wozniak: http://anewdomain.net/2012/04/26/apple-founder-inventor-stev...
I wouldn't say it's blogspam, but linking the original source is still preferred. (Although here it seems to have gone down!)
(Blogspam originally implied a blog post that copy-pastes the entire original article, possibly adding one or two sentences of "commentary". This article clearly has more meat than that -- it's at least a good faith effort to provide some context.)
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#19The anal-retentiveness required to honestly differentiate between navigating an iphone and an android is ridiculous. They both have grids of 4 icons wide. Android scrolls vertically, iphone scrolls horizontally. You touch the icon to launch app. The idea that there is room between android and iOS for a 2nd favorite mobile OS, based upon navigation of app screens is laughable. Either its better than both of them, or i…
There is a gigantic difference in how an Android and iPhone navigate. Develop the same app for both and you will see that clearly. The big difference is Android uses a standard back button for all applications. This leads Android users to end up mashing a lot of buttons at random, to try and get what they want - it's actually quite a bad UI, and it was just translated from the web clumsily. On iPhone, each app has it…
edit: Ah, I had totally faulty memory on this issue.
The new navigation guidelines have back behaving as previously, but call for an "Up" button that navigates the app's hierarchy.
http://developer.android.com/design/patterns/navigation.html
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I think the updated design guide for ICS Android calls for the back button to ascend up the hierarchy of the app, rather than taking you to whatever screen you were last on. (So it is now supposed to be deterministic.) There are also better guidelines for how to provide in app navigation.
It'll probably take quite a while to catch on.
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#20Android is a really low bar. I've used several smartphones and the Android ones are easily the worst. It really does feel cobbled together and unintuitive. I call it the platform that makes. Symbian look good. On the other hand it's what I use since Apple has been so hostile to me and friends, and webOS is clearly a dead-end.