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Amsterdam Switches to 30 Km/h on 80% of its Roads

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Re: Amsterdam Switches to 30 Km/h on 80% of its Roads

#31

That's 18.6 mph, slower than the speed limit around US schools. Is the expectation people will go 20 or 25 mph (32 to 40 km/h) in reality?

In the US it wouldn't make sense. Spending 2 hours to go to the grocery store and back just on the travelling part would be a big commitment whenever you needed to go.

Re: Amsterdam Switches to 30 Km/h on 80% of its Roads

#32
post #5

That's amazing. Meanwhile, in some other first world countries (allegedly): "come on bro, just one more lane, and increase the speed limit, that'll definitely fix traffic and make everything better".

In Sydney it is one more tunnel! I am not against it as the infra could be used by an army of electric buses that could be a psuedo-metro. Please do that!

They kinda did that in Brissie!

Re: Amsterdam Switches to 30 Km/h on 80% of its Roads

#33
post #15

The "quieter" aspect is no joke. For the first time in my life, I moved into an apartment near a busy road, the noise is very difficult and I have to wear silicone ear plugs/pillows at night just to sleep because of car noise, especially people with loud motorcycles and trucks and cars that think everyone wants to hear them at 2am. Outside of that over-the-top "flex" noise, just the car noise is fatiguing. One can sa…

That the thing, apartments in US/Canada are in 'trashier' pockets of the city. Single family homes are well located mostly and don't have such problems. Reason is simply - apartments were put there they are well after city was fully developed. Speaking from my experience in Toronto/Montreal areas. Thus I disagree about traffic noise, it's a necessary evil. Real evil is vast zones of single family areas in the city li…

Some new apartments in 5-over-2 buildings sure. But developers only build apartments in areas that already have high land value, this includes areas like center city, Phila, the loop in Chicago, the central west end in St. Louis, etc,

Re: Amsterdam Switches to 30 Km/h on 80% of its Roads

#34

The "quieter" aspect is no joke. For the first time in my life, I moved into an apartment near a busy road, the noise is very difficult and I have to wear silicone ear plugs/pillows at night just to sleep because of car noise, especially people with loud motorcycles and trucks and cars that think everyone wants to hear them at 2am. Outside of that over-the-top "flex" noise, just the car noise is fatiguing. One can sa…

I live on a popular local road, but cars/trucks are nothing in comparison to motorcycles. It’s especially bad when there are large groups - not sure what the physics behind this, but it seems to resonate even worse and shake the entire house. There’s no reason it needs to be this loud and the usual safety argument doesn’t resonate with me… pun intended…

Re: Amsterdam Switches to 30 Km/h on 80% of its Roads

#36
post #3

I like it mainly because this probably is limiting electric bikes more than restricting cars. It's a lil' difficult for cars to hit 50 /too often/ and I say this anecdotally but those bikes in a very 'bike friendly' city are blurring lines and only getting faster.

Electric bicycles aren't allowed to exceed 25km/h anyway, so legally only human-powered bikes can exceed the 30km/h speed limit. If the owners messed with their bikes to override the speed limiter, I doubt they'll care about the 30km/h signs. Mopeds and similar vehicles (the ones with license plates and mandatory helmets) will probably be hit the worst.

In Norway the law is stated such that you can get help from the bicycle engine to reach max 25km/h.

It's not very difficult to reach 30km/h to 50km/h manually on a bicycle.

Re: Amsterdam Switches to 30 Km/h on 80% of its Roads

#38
post #30

That's 18.6 mph, slower than the speed limit around US schools. Is the expectation people will go 20 or 25 mph (32 to 40 km/h) in reality?

People in Amsterdam use km/h not mph. From my experience in france, on 30km/h roads, people would drive anywhere between 30-40km/h, while on 50km/h roads, people would drive between 50 and 55km/h.

Isn't that what the parent comment said?

Re: Amsterdam Switches to 30 Km/h on 80% of its Roads

#39

Sounds terrible. I wouldn't want to live in that city.

It is terrible. They introduced similar speed limits in parts of London UK and it sucks. It does help with noise pollution but driving in London on empty roads at 20 mph is horrible.

Re: Amsterdam Switches to 30 Km/h on 80% of its Roads

#40
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the expectation is that the government can put up speed cameras everywhere and make a shit ton of money.

i'm pretty sure that's only a legit business model in the usa

Nope that's a business model in Mexico too
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