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The Tesla Semi from an Insider's View After One Year: "Hot Mess"

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Re: The Tesla Semi from an Insider's View After One Year: "Hot Mess"

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This seems kind of par for the course. What I find strange is that there are busses[1] operating economically with similar time of use (but not top speed) requirements. The whole "car parts scaled up to truck size" is super on brand for their chief technologist. I'm also seeing a bunch of Rivian trucks and Ford E150 lightnings on the roads around the Bay Area which, for me, doesn't bode well for the launch of the Tes…

The first time I saw a cyber truck on the road in Austin I literally laughed out loud. It was that startling. I’m sure that will fade, but it’s a very comical first impression.

Re: The Tesla Semi from an Insider's View After One Year: "Hot Mess"

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This seems kind of par for the course. What I find strange is that there are busses[1] operating economically with similar time of use (but not top speed) requirements. The whole "car parts scaled up to truck size" is super on brand for their chief technologist. I'm also seeing a bunch of Rivian trucks and Ford E150 lightnings on the roads around the Bay Area which, for me, doesn't bode well for the launch of the Tes…

Tesla just makes the biggest headlines. Freightliner had an electric class 8 truck in production before the Tesla. And they're not the only other company doing it. I trust Freightliner to make a big truck a lot more than I'd trust Tesla.

Re: The Tesla Semi from an Insider's View After One Year: "Hot Mess"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's something that's basically equivalent to a golf cart with a bed on it. Hardly an example of anything useful except transporting some stuff around your own property.

FTA: "It’s fine if people want to call it a “glorified golf cart”, though I’m not sure I’ve seen a golf cart that can tow a boat, haul furniture, dump mulch, and that comes with creature comforts like air-conditioning, infotainment screen, power windows and locks, and a frunk."

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Re: The Tesla Semi from an Insider's View After One Year: "Hot Mess"

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FTA: "It’s fine if people want to call it a “glorified golf cart”, though I’m not sure I’ve seen a golf cart that can tow a boat, haul furniture, dump mulch, and that comes with creature comforts like air-conditioning, infotainment screen, power windows and locks, and a frunk."

Yea, i've read it but the point still stands. And there's all sorts of tricked out golf carts available with most of those features. Being able to bounce around your own property is cool, and there's many types of small vehicles for that, but they're not something you compare to a road worthy vehicle.

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Re: The Tesla Semi from an Insider's View After One Year: "Hot Mess"

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Looks like the design requirement for a heavy duty vehicle were not properly followed. Though that's how tesla builds something like software build find faults then itteriate. For light duty if you can get chinese $2000 truck with a hydraulic lift I think china is going to takeover the world's vehicle manufacturing markets. https://electrek.co/2023/11/14/two-years-after-buying-a-2000...

That’s about the worst possible way to build a physical product, especially a heavy duty industrial product like a semi truck.

If that’s honestly their design philosophy I have serious doubts about their ability to contend with any serious competition beyond what they’ve gained so far from being a first mover in the less rigorous world of end consumer cars.

Re: The Tesla Semi from an Insider's View After One Year: "Hot Mess"

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post #17

> The constant use of the battery pack is unprecedented and is causing reliability problems for Tesla and other EV truck makers I don't understand why this is a surprise and why they think they can muscle through it. I didn't think our current battery technology is built for this scenario. > During the installation process, the Megachargers took down the power grid for a good chunk of the city This is my fear with ev…

> This is my fear with everyone eventually plugging in their electric vehicles at 5pm First off, it said during the install. So evidently it wasn't load related anyway. Second, I used to live in a little town of well under 50k people. The local coop gave a couple hundred dollars in rebates for the installation of load management on their water heaters. I'd expect this would get solved in basically the same way. The t…

Back in the day everybody watched the same TV programs, there used to be the "simultaneous flush at break time" problem (real or imagined), e.g. https://medium.com/nycwater/the-big-flush-on-super-bowl-sund...

Re: The Tesla Semi from an Insider's View After One Year: "Hot Mess"

#38
>Center seating, which looks cool in the Tesla Semi launch video, is actually not practical and not well liked by PepsiCo’s drivers.

My work involves direct interaction with truck drivers on a near daily basis and I have been saying this since Tesla debuted the interior design. I am completely unsurprised to hear this

The amount of hubris Tesla has when it comes to so many things like this is mind-blowing.

Re: The Tesla Semi from an Insider's View After One Year: "Hot Mess"

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post #12

Batteries on semis dont make much sense to me. Hybrid systems on heavy inner city vehicles make a lot of sense. As do hybrids in mountainous areas. But long distance hauling? BS. Semi engines are large with very low power to displacement ratio -> they are very fuel efficient. Truck builders' customers are very sensitive to fuel consumption. I find it very hard to believe that marginal grid power (ie thermal plant), t…

We need to go to net zero somehow. With carbon capture or carbon offset technologies near non existing, we have to make the switch sooner or later

Trains.

Re: The Tesla Semi from an Insider's View After One Year: "Hot Mess"

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's something that's basically equivalent to a golf cart with a bed on it. Hardly an example of anything useful except transporting some stuff around your own property.

FTA: "It’s fine if people want to call it a “glorified golf cart”, though I’m not sure I’ve seen a golf cart that can tow a boat, haul furniture, dump mulch, and that comes with creature comforts like air-conditioning, infotainment screen, power windows and locks, and a frunk."

> that can tow a boat

LOL, most golf carts could tow that tiny little boat.

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