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Re: Apple's soldered-in SSDs are engineered in the WORST way possible [video]

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Post by dsomers »

voidbert wrote: post #23
entropy273 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I tell all my Apple friends to name something their $1000 iPhone does that my $200 Motorola can't. Privacy?

Though iOS is, out of the box, more private than stock (non-AOSP) Android, nothing compares to a custom ROM. You can even debloat android and disable play services, if you don't want to risk bricking your device, or if there aren't any custom ROMs available. Of course, the average Joe wouldn't do that, but I guess most people on HN are quite tech savvy.

I for one have built enough Linux kernels from scratch, and patched enough Linux drivers into working — thanks, so no one can call me an average Joe when it comes to tech. However, I mostly left all of that behind outside of work years ago, I’m desperate for time, not money, and I have way better things to do with my time than dick around with a custom android build, thanks. You do you, but Apple provides me with a ‘good enough’ service that saves me a lot of time.

Re: Apple's soldered-in SSDs are engineered in the WORST way possible [video]

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Post by throw9away6 »

jqpabc123 wrote: post #3

This in nothing new or surprising. Virtually everything Apple has engineered for decades prioritizes Apple's interests over the users in some way. iPhones don't support memory cards or wired headphones for the same reason. I tell all my Apple friends to name something their $1000 iPhone does that my $200 Motorola can't. I can name several simple, practical, useful things an iPhone can't do --- not because Apple can't…

Apple media messaging integration in the blue bubble is the killer feature

Re: Apple's soldered-in SSDs are engineered in the WORST way possible [video]

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Post by bitwize »

I'd like to see what Hector Martin -- you know, someone who actually knows something about Apple device internals -- says about this. He had a Mastodon thread recently on how full of shit Louis is about almost every engineering decision Apple makes. Apple prioritizes speed, security, and usability over repairability. Peripherals such as the touch screen in an iPhone or iPad, for instance, have signed firmware and encrypted configuration to prevent the touch screen being used as an attack vector.

Doubtless something similar is happening with the SSD. Given how sensitive the data thereupon is, it would make sense to have signed and verified SSD firmware and keep the encryption keys for the SSD in the Secure Enclave or something. Apple's integrated approach allows for the design of a far more secure system than the bucket of swappable parts we normally think of as a PC. Part swappers like Louis badmouthing them for lack of reapirability is in poor taste; Apple is doing something way different (and far more advanced, and far more protective of the user) than the typical PC vendor.

Re: Apple's soldered-in SSDs are engineered in the WORST way possible [video]

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Post by jqpabc123 »

ciabattabread wrote: post #30
jqpabc123 wrote: post #3

This in nothing new or surprising. Virtually everything Apple has engineered for decades prioritizes Apple's interests over the users in some way. iPhones don't support memory cards or wired headphones for the same reason. I tell all my Apple friends to name something their $1000 iPhone does that my $200 Motorola can't. I can name several simple, practical, useful things an iPhone can't do --- not because Apple can't…

> I tell all my Apple friends to name something their $1000 iPhone does that my $200 Motorola can't. You do this all the time? > I can name several simple, practical, useful things an iPhone can't do --- not because Apple can't do it but because they don't want to. Name them. We have plenty of electrons. > I made the mistake of showing an Applehead how I could use a Windows PC to archive photos from an iPhone to a me…

Name them. We have plenty of electrons.

I just named two --- add storage and use wired headphones.

did they want to not pay for additional iCloud storage?

They just did not want to pay for additional storage.

And why should they? Oh, that right --- because Apple intentionally engineered this into their "walled garden".

Re: Apple's soldered-in SSDs are engineered in the WORST way possible [video]

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Post by stavros »

ciabattabread wrote: post #30
jqpabc123 wrote: post #3

This in nothing new or surprising. Virtually everything Apple has engineered for decades prioritizes Apple's interests over the users in some way. iPhones don't support memory cards or wired headphones for the same reason. I tell all my Apple friends to name something their $1000 iPhone does that my $200 Motorola can't. I can name several simple, practical, useful things an iPhone can't do --- not because Apple can't…

> I tell all my Apple friends to name something their $1000 iPhone does that my $200 Motorola can't. You do this all the time? > I can name several simple, practical, useful things an iPhone can't do --- not because Apple can't do it but because they don't want to. Name them. We have plenty of electrons. > I made the mistake of showing an Applehead how I could use a Windows PC to archive photos from an iPhone to a me…

It can browse the Web and watch YouTube without ads and tracking, which is the big one for me.

Re: Apple's soldered-in SSDs are engineered in the WORST way possible [video]

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Post by jqpabc123 »

prepend wrote: post #13
jqpabc123 wrote: post #3

This in nothing new or surprising. Virtually everything Apple has engineered for decades prioritizes Apple's interests over the users in some way. iPhones don't support memory cards or wired headphones for the same reason. I tell all my Apple friends to name something their $1000 iPhone does that my $200 Motorola can't. I can name several simple, practical, useful things an iPhone can't do --- not because Apple can't…

> I tell all my Apple friends to name something their $1000 iPhone does that my $200 Motorola can't. I’m not an “Apple friend” but I use Apple phones. My 4 year old $400 iPhone SE still gets updates and runs every app that since the day I bought it. Does your Motorola do that? My phone also doesn’t send forced telemetry to Google for use in selling ads to me. That’s kind of a big deal, I think. I don’t think I’ve tal…

Does your Motorola do that?

Yes, it does. Because I did something with my Motorola that you can't do with Apple --- I replaced the ROM.

My phone also doesn’t send forced telemetry to Google

No, your phone sends forced telemetry to Apple --- most likely so they can sell it to Google.

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/android-ios-data-collection

Re: Apple's soldered-in SSDs are engineered in the WORST way possible [video]

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Post by hacym »

jqpabc123 wrote: post #34
ciabattabread wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I tell all my Apple friends to name something their $1000 iPhone does that my $200 Motorola can't. You do this all the time? > I can name several simple, practical, useful things an iPhone can't do --- not because Apple can't do it but because they don't want to. Name them. We have plenty of electrons. > I made the mistake of showing an Applehead how I could use a Windows PC to archive photos from an iPhone to a me…

Name them. We have plenty of electrons. I just named two --- add storage and use wired headphones. did they want to not pay for additional iCloud storage? They just did not want to pay for additional storage. And why should they? Oh, that right --- because Apple intentionally engineered this into their "walled garden".

If you are a Motorola (and I assume Android user) why do you care? I get it if you’re an Apple user and you have legitimate critiques, but you’re proclaiming, proudly, that you’re not.

Your comment comes off as envious and a massive waste of time and effort. If you don’t like Apple, what’s the point in wasting your time writing out a response about it? Just move on. Seems like there’s a little bit more to your Apple rant that just “I don’t like how Apple engineers stuff”.

Re: Apple's soldered-in SSDs are engineered in the WORST way possible [video]

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Post by hacym »

lockhouse wrote: post #17
toast0 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, if you buy an Android phone without an industry standard headphone jack, you have to deal with the same problems as an iPhone. Or you can select a phone where it's simple. Lightning and USB-C headphones and adapters exist, of course, but it's easier to have one set of headphones that works for everything except the gameboy advance (nintendo learned and went back to 3.5mm), and has an adapter taped to the receive…

Headphone jacks are no longer common on Android phones either so this is a very strange dig at Apple. Samsung, Google, and most other mainstream companies haven’t included them in years. The official adapter from Apple costs $9 and works flawlessly. https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MMX62AM/A/lightning-to-35...

They also removed it after ridiculing Apple for the move.

Re: Apple's soldered-in SSDs are engineered in the WORST way possible [video]

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Post by jqpabc123 »

entropy273 wrote: post #20
jqpabc123 wrote: post #3

This in nothing new or surprising. Virtually everything Apple has engineered for decades prioritizes Apple's interests over the users in some way. iPhones don't support memory cards or wired headphones for the same reason. I tell all my Apple friends to name something their $1000 iPhone does that my $200 Motorola can't. I can name several simple, practical, useful things an iPhone can't do --- not because Apple can't…

> I tell all my Apple friends to name something their $1000 iPhone does that my $200 Motorola can't. Privacy?

No, sorry. Just because you drank the Apple Cider doesn't mean Apple isn't sucking up all your data ... and most likely selling it for cash.

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/android-ios-data-collection

Re: Apple's soldered-in SSDs are engineered in the WORST way possible [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

jqpabc123 wrote: post #3

This in nothing new or surprising. Virtually everything Apple has engineered for decades prioritizes Apple's interests over the users in some way. iPhones don't support memory cards or wired headphones for the same reason. I tell all my Apple friends to name something their $1000 iPhone does that my $200 Motorola can't. I can name several simple, practical, useful things an iPhone can't do --- not because Apple can't…

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