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This in nothing new or surprising. Virtually everything Apple has engineered for decades prioritizes Apple's interests over the users in some way. iPhones don't support memory cards or wired headphones for the same reason. I tell all my Apple friends to name something their $1000 iPhone does that my $200 Motorola can't. I can name several simple, practical, useful things an iPhone can't do --- not because Apple can't…

I think part of the headphone jack removal was water proofing.

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This in nothing new or surprising. Virtually everything Apple has engineered for decades prioritizes Apple's interests over the users in some way. iPhones don't support memory cards or wired headphones for the same reason. I tell all my Apple friends to name something their $1000 iPhone does that my $200 Motorola can't. I can name several simple, practical, useful things an iPhone can't do --- not because Apple can't…

Do people really spend significant amounts of time arguing whose phone is better in the real world?

Yes, and it almost always tends to be people who barely use their devices to their full capabilities. Power users know better - they use whatever tool is best for the job.

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#13

This in nothing new or surprising. Virtually everything Apple has engineered for decades prioritizes Apple's interests over the users in some way. iPhones don't support memory cards or wired headphones for the same reason. I tell all my Apple friends to name something their $1000 iPhone does that my $200 Motorola can't. I can name several simple, practical, useful things an iPhone can't do --- not because Apple can't…

> I tell all my Apple friends to name something their $1000 iPhone does that my $200 Motorola can't.

I’m not an “Apple friend” but I use Apple phones. My 4 year old $400 iPhone SE still gets updates and runs every app that since the day I bought it.

Does your Motorola do that?

My phone also doesn’t send forced telemetry to Google for use in selling ads to me. That’s kind of a big deal, I think.

I don’t think I’ve talked to anyone to argue over whose phone is better for years. And I don’t think a company is “better” than another. But there are certainly some things that Apple phones do that Android phones don’t.

Re: Apple's soldered-in SSDs are engineered in the WORST way possible [video]

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Do people really spend significant amounts of time arguing whose phone is better in the real world?

Yes, and it almost always tends to be people who barely use their devices to their full capabilities. Power users know better - they use whatever tool is best for the job.

"Power users" are more often than not the ones doing the all arguing. HN and Reddit are the best examples of that.

People who just buy the newer version of their favorite phone don't even care enough to argue.

Even the people who care too much about blue or green bubbles don't give a damn about which phone has more RAM or CPU, or which OS is better, or UX, or whatever. They never stop to compare.

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Theres is one thing non apple manufacturers can’t do: iOS I’ve given old iphones / helped purchase new ones to my Android friends over the years - none got back to android. The experience is subjective but a well designed user interface with attention to detail an very responsive hardware/software combination that keeps working like that after 4+ years beats every other option. Specially after apple focused on sellin…

I disagree. This isn’t Mac System 6 vs Windows3 The Apple brand carries the day now. It’s called “aspirational luxury”. Even PhD students who could solder together a laptop with parts off Alibaba still want a MBP because: sex. PS: What’s more powerful: “aspirational luxury” or “fame seeking”? I think Apple better build-up that SharePlay feature a whole lot (and come up with ancillary features to identify and add peop…

> It’s called “aspirational luxury”. Even PhD students who could solder together a laptop with parts off Alibaba still want a MBP because, you know: sex.

It's really not though, for me. I resisted going Mac for many years, to my personal detriment. I finally threw in the towel during a business trip where my current Thinkpad was getting less than 2.5hrs per charge, while the MBP I picked up at Best Buy lasted 12+.

I haven't looked back for laptops ever since, and w/ the M2 the gap is growing even more.

The form factor is far and away a secondary consideration these days to it simply being useful as a tool. Perhaps the windows laptop ecosystem has caught up since - but Apple would have to fuck up for me to consider it a priority worth spending the time on switching again. A $1,000 "apple tax" every 3-5 years when I need a new one is money well spent to avoid such things.

Mobile devices are similar. I'm still on Android, but just barely. The ecosystem continues to get worse in my opinion, and a lot of the benefits of "open" are slowly being eroded into a shittier version of the Apple walled garden.

For me, personally, I'd be in the market for Apple devices that are "skinned" to look like they are not Apple devices. I actually hate bringing my Macbook out with me since it makes you stand out as a target for theft in some areas. I use them because they simply get the job done better for me, and my daily computing is no longer a hobby I enjoy tinkering around with.

Re: Apple's soldered-in SSDs are engineered in the WORST way possible [video]

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This in nothing new or surprising. Virtually everything Apple has engineered for decades prioritizes Apple's interests over the users in some way. iPhones don't support memory cards or wired headphones for the same reason. I tell all my Apple friends to name something their $1000 iPhone does that my $200 Motorola can't. I can name several simple, practical, useful things an iPhone can't do --- not because Apple can't…

> iPhones don't support memory cards or wired headphones You’re right about memory cards, but wrong about wired headphones. They work just fine, I just either need headphones with a Lightning plug or a Lightning to 3.5mm adapter, similar to all the Android phones that don’t have a 3.5mm headphone jack, but replace Lightning with USB-C.

Yes, if you buy an Android phone without an industry standard headphone jack, you have to deal with the same problems as an iPhone. Or you can select a phone where it's simple.

Lightning and USB-C headphones and adapters exist, of course, but it's easier to have one set of headphones that works for everything except the gameboy advance (nintendo learned and went back to 3.5mm), and has an adapter taped to the receiver if you want to plug into your receiver.

Re: Apple's soldered-in SSDs are engineered in the WORST way possible [video]

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> iPhones don't support memory cards or wired headphones You’re right about memory cards, but wrong about wired headphones. They work just fine, I just either need headphones with a Lightning plug or a Lightning to 3.5mm adapter, similar to all the Android phones that don’t have a 3.5mm headphone jack, but replace Lightning with USB-C.

Yes, if you buy an Android phone without an industry standard headphone jack, you have to deal with the same problems as an iPhone. Or you can select a phone where it's simple. Lightning and USB-C headphones and adapters exist, of course, but it's easier to have one set of headphones that works for everything except the gameboy advance (nintendo learned and went back to 3.5mm), and has an adapter taped to the receive…

Headphone jacks are no longer common on Android phones either so this is a very strange dig at Apple. Samsung, Google, and most other mainstream companies haven’t included them in years.

The official adapter from Apple costs $9 and works flawlessly.

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MMX62AM/A/lightning-to-35...

Re: Apple's soldered-in SSDs are engineered in the WORST way possible [video]

#18

This in nothing new or surprising. Virtually everything Apple has engineered for decades prioritizes Apple's interests over the users in some way. iPhones don't support memory cards or wired headphones for the same reason. I tell all my Apple friends to name something their $1000 iPhone does that my $200 Motorola can't. I can name several simple, practical, useful things an iPhone can't do --- not because Apple can't…

> iPhones don't support memory cards or wired headphones You’re right about memory cards, but wrong about wired headphones. They work just fine, I just either need headphones with a Lightning plug or a Lightning to 3.5mm adapter, similar to all the Android phones that don’t have a 3.5mm headphone jack, but replace Lightning with USB-C.

Nah Android folks still have refurbished LG phone or ROG phone to buy to be honest. Top tier DAC chip is embedded into the phone directly. If you are not using top tier TypeC DAC cost 200USD or something, your sound quality lose in every aspect.

ROG phone current has the best audio hardware but guess who's second? It's LG. LG from 2019 still holds the throne if Asus didn't realize they should put a DAC inside ROG phone 5.

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This in nothing new or surprising. Virtually everything Apple has engineered for decades prioritizes Apple's interests over the users in some way. iPhones don't support memory cards or wired headphones for the same reason. I tell all my Apple friends to name something their $1000 iPhone does that my $200 Motorola can't. I can name several simple, practical, useful things an iPhone can't do --- not because Apple can't…

Theres is one thing non apple manufacturers can’t do: iOS I’ve given old iphones / helped purchase new ones to my Android friends over the years - none got back to android. The experience is subjective but a well designed user interface with attention to detail an very responsive hardware/software combination that keeps working like that after 4+ years beats every other option. Specially after apple focused on sellin…

I tried iOS. The fact that you can't even do something as basic as alphabetize your app icons was infuriating to me. And it was even more infuriating when they finally added some way to access your apps as alphabetically as a scrolling list at the very end of the home screen with less priority than their terrible AI auto-categorized apps. It doesn't really scream attention to detail when they put "Mini Metro" in an auto group with transit apps.

Re: Apple's soldered-in SSDs are engineered in the WORST way possible [video]

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This in nothing new or surprising. Virtually everything Apple has engineered for decades prioritizes Apple's interests over the users in some way. iPhones don't support memory cards or wired headphones for the same reason. I tell all my Apple friends to name something their $1000 iPhone does that my $200 Motorola can't. I can name several simple, practical, useful things an iPhone can't do --- not because Apple can't…

> I tell all my Apple friends to name something their $1000 iPhone does that my $200 Motorola can't.

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