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Re: UK version of “Online Harms Bill” wants to prefilter content without due process

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Post by PKop »

Rexogamer wrote: post #23
treeman79 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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we are currently under a right wing government whose media friends smeared their only real opposition as... a dangerous communist who would destroy the country. their main opposition now are copying more and more of their policies. they are not, in fact, communists and are pretty far away from ever being left of centre.

A Right wing government would stop mass immigration and not promote leftist social values as current UK government/establishment does. Far away from right wing, certainly not nationalist in any way.

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Post by datadeft »

blipvert wrote: post #28
treeman79 wrote: post #22

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Oh, pity the (faux?) naive child who has been brought up on a diet of McCarthyism. You’re so scared of reds under the bed that you can’t see what the (increasingly far-)right wing are doing to you.

Based on what? Where is extreme right wing you are talking about?

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Post by bonzini »

Am4TIfIsER0ppos wrote: post #17
mikece wrote: post #2

Aside from "the dark web," are there any efforts to create an impossible-to-censor parallel version or subset of the internet?

No because people with enough influence will terminate your hosting, domain name, isp, bank account, or just get your site blocked. See kiwi farms, nigel farage, and the wikipedia-iwf dust-up. Mastodon and the fediverse are close, maybe, but many instances refuse to "speak" to one another because of their users.

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Post by blipvert »

blippitybleep wrote: post #26
treeman79 wrote: post #22

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I’m not sure why a conservative government would want to implement Marxism or where Marx mentioned censorship of this sort.

Didn’t you know? Marx was a hedge fund banker too!

, obviously…

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Post by ketralnis »

treeman79 wrote: post #22
happytiger wrote: post #11

Do they not realize that they will kill democracy in the process?

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Communism, Marxism, Fascism, and other "everything I don't like is ____" names aren't the same thing as totalitarianism.

You can tell because this is a right-wing government trying to do this while Communism and Marxism are left-wing ideologies.

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Post by dang »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #19
dang wrote: post #9

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Maybe so, but please don't post unsubstantive comments here.

Maybe unsubstantive, but it's the closest analogy everyone can understand.

If everyone can understand something, then repeating it won't lead any place new. We're trying to optimize for curiosity [1], so we're trying to avoid repetition [2].

That goes double for the repetitive+indignant sort of internet comment—those almost always lead to shallow conversation.

[1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

[2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

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Post by datadeft »

Rexogamer wrote: post #23
treeman79 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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we are currently under a right wing government whose media friends smeared their only real opposition as... a dangerous communist who would destroy the country. their main opposition now are copying more and more of their policies. they are not, in fact, communists and are pretty far away from ever being left of centre.

I think this is tribal view of the word. Reality is much more complex than left vs right. The political elite is pushing this false dichotomy too.

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Post by mc32 »

blipvert wrote: post #28
treeman79 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Oh, pity the (faux?) naive child who has been brought up on a diet of McCarthyism. You’re so scared of reds under the bed that you can’t see what the (increasingly far-)right wing are doing to you.

Communism and Fascism are solely vehicles to and end. Those who govern desire more control no matter what system gets them there. “Whatever works!”

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Post by PKop »

blipvert wrote: post #28
treeman79 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Oh, pity the (faux?) naive child who has been brought up on a diet of McCarthyism. You’re so scared of reds under the bed that you can’t see what the (increasingly far-)right wing are doing to you.

A right wing, especially a "far" right wing, government would have mass deportations, stop immigration, promote nationalist ideology, and not allow let alone themselves push things such as pride and other left wing social values.

There doesn't exist any single example of this in the Anglo-sphere, nor the UK itself.

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