Do they not realize that they will kill democracy in the process?
UK version of “Online Harms Bill” wants to prefilter content without due process
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#12It's "Online Harms (to the UK royalty) Bill". The lords and dukes are very worried.
Lords and dukes don't give a monkey - in fact, the House of Lords has largely been a progressive organ over the last 20 years. Turns out that, once they're given a sinecure, political hacks and flunkeys often rediscover their ethics and morals.
This is more the "Online Harm To Tory Propaganda And Election Chances Bill".
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#13Aside from "the dark web," are there any efforts to create an impossible-to-censor parallel version or subset of the internet?
Who wants to hide whatever, can already assume the current methods of communications are compromised.
I think it will be a cat and mouse game, where people will be finding more and more creative ways of exchanging keys and disguising encrypted messages in seemingly normal conversations or images.
It will be again something that won't affect serious criminals, but will give government an insight into who is committing wrong think of the given year (as these things change over time).
I can also imagine, given the wages in the UK are pretty bad, especially for engineers, many of those working on the necessary infrastructure would be tempted by the ideas of insider trading, leaking company and private secrets to the highest bidder and so on.
It feels like this government just doesn't give a flying toss and they just want take a dip into people private lives and see what they can get out of it.
What is even more worrying is that the opposition also supports this bill.
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#14Do they not realize that they will kill democracy in the process?
"They" don't believe in democracy anyway, they like to make people think they believe in democracy, but really they're like any other despots around the world.
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#15It's "Online Harms (to the UK royalty) Bill". The lords and dukes are very worried.
Lords and dukes don't give a monkey - in fact, the House of Lords has largely been a progressive organ over the last 20 years. Turns out that, once they're given a sinecure, political hacks and flunkeys often rediscover their ethics and morals. This is more the "Online Harm To Tory Propaganda And Election Chances Bill".
> This is more the "Online Harm To Tory Propaganda And Election Chances Bill".
Hey, let's not forget that Labour also supports this bill.
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#16Do they not realize that they will kill democracy in the process?
I think they absolutely do. The more serious question is, do the general public realise?
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#17Aside from "the dark web," are there any efforts to create an impossible-to-censor parallel version or subset of the internet?
No because people with enough influence will terminate your hosting, domain name, isp, bank account, or just get your site blocked. See kiwi farms, nigel farage, and the wikipedia-iwf dust-up.
Mastodon and the fediverse are close, maybe, but many instances refuse to "speak" to one another because of their users.
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#18Do they not realize that they will kill democracy in the process?
It’s a feature, not a bug - Them, probably
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#20Aside from "the dark web," are there any efforts to create an impossible-to-censor parallel version or subset of the internet?
No because people with enough influence will terminate your hosting, domain name, isp, bank account, or just get your site blocked. See kiwi farms, nigel farage, and the wikipedia-iwf dust-up. Mastodon and the fediverse are close, maybe, but many instances refuse to "speak" to one another because of their users.
Exactly. Last election cycle we saw all sorts of excuses to deplatform certain communities and viewpoints, some very disagreeable but some just had a different point of view on some health related topics.