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Re: Tell HN: ChatGPT is fantastic for finding and solving issues in logs

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systemd is a very common log. I'm curious whether you think this would work on logs for custom software that by necessity didn't have either its logs or writing about its logs in the training set.

Considering the fact that the RLHF for ChatGPT was done only in English but then worked just as well for every other language I would wager that specific types of logs being present in the training set is less important than it may seem.

> Considering the fact that the RLHF for ChatGPT was done only in English but then worked just as well for every other language

Does it work just as well for every other language, or does it work acceptably well for an important subset of other languages?

Re: Tell HN: ChatGPT is fantastic for finding and solving issues in logs

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I used it to transform cryptic credit card statement items into company names, which then allowed me to query my Gmail archives for receipts and invoices from these vendors, automating a manual process of accounting backup discovery that is the bane of my very existence. I even got GPT-4 to assess whether an email likely relates to an invoice or payment so that I could limit the amount of noise extracted from my email archives.

I highly recommend considering GPT-4 every time you encounter a painful manual process. In nearly every case where I have applied GPT-4, it has been successful in one-shot or few-shot solving the problem.

Re: Tell HN: ChatGPT is fantastic for finding and solving issues in logs

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm quite curious about some of these applications because I don't really understand what the cognitive work is that's being offloaded. Making meal plans: what is being done here? making a list of meals to eat each day of the week? isn't this just a question of thinking what one would like to eat? why is it easier to have the meals chosen by someone else? Writing school essays: what is the point of this? Aren't schoo…

> Making meal plans: what is being done here? making a list of meals to eat each day of the week? isn't this just a question of thinking what one would like to eat? why is it easier to have the meals chosen by someone else? Do you have children? Meal planning can be a quite tedious and frustrating task if you want to cook at home, eat healthy, eat tasty, vary the dishes and have meals that kids will accept.

I do have children. The thing is that I know what my children like to eat and don't like to eat, but ChatGPT does not.

If I had to direct, say, a human servant who is very good at cooking, but who doesn't know my kids, to plan meals for my family, I would suggest 4-6 meals that we eat frequently, 7-10 that we eat a bit less frequently, and then maybe mention a couple of things that my kids don't like. And specific dietary requirements if we had them.

I would expect that person to sort of randomly choose from the suggested meals, with the frequent ones more frequent, and then maybe try a couple of new things which don't match any of the not-likes. (And then ask us if we liked them before making them again.)

But it seems that the only hard parts are coming up with the spec to give to that person (which I do), and then varying it based on feedback (which the cook would do, but which ChatGPT doesn't do). What am I missing?

Re: Tell HN: ChatGPT is fantastic for finding and solving issues in logs

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm quite curious about some of these applications because I don't really understand what the cognitive work is that's being offloaded. Making meal plans: what is being done here? making a list of meals to eat each day of the week? isn't this just a question of thinking what one would like to eat? why is it easier to have the meals chosen by someone else? Writing school essays: what is the point of this? Aren't schoo…

> Making meal plans: what is being done here? making a list of meals to eat each day of the week? isn't this just a question of thinking what one would like to eat? why is it easier to have the meals chosen by someone else? Do you have children? Meal planning can be a quite tedious and frustrating task if you want to cook at home, eat healthy, eat tasty, vary the dishes and have meals that kids will accept.

In addition, for recipes, it’s just a better Google. If I do “Give me a concise recipe for X” it gives me one. No fluff, no ads. Just ingredients and steps. For example. I asked for pasta carbonara, concise and then even more concise. Final result:

Quick Carbonara (4 servings)

Ingredients:

12 oz pasta

4 eggs

1 cup cheese

8 oz bacon

4 garlic

Salt, pepper

Parsley (opt)

Cook pasta, save water.

Mix eggs, cheese.

Fry bacon, garlic.

Combine, mix, season.

Serve.

Great if you’re grocery shopping and want to make sure you don’t forget anything.

Re: Tell HN: ChatGPT is fantastic for finding and solving issues in logs

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post #23
post #19

systemd is a very common log. I'm curious whether you think this would work on logs for custom software that by necessity didn't have either its logs or writing about its logs in the training set.

No need to think, just.. try it and find out?

The author has chosen to 'Tell HN' so it seems reasonable to ask them for further details?

I have lots of hard-to-analyse logs but there are constraints which prevent me from sharing them with OpenAI. I am nonetheless curious about whether to do so would be worthwhile or not.

Re: Tell HN: ChatGPT is fantastic for finding and solving issues in logs

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post #3

I wish people would focus on these exceptional strengths of the model rather than blabbing about AGI or whatever. Similarly to you, I have been able to find issues with logs, formatting, asking it quick query questions in [whatever flavor of query language XYZ service likes to use], etc.. and it's really, really good. The alternative is to muscle through it, using a lot of energy, writing my own parser or something d…

Yes, especially given that nobody can adequately define what AGI even means . But hey, if we did, then we couldn't have so many meandering, unproductive conversations about it on Fridman or Rogan. Recently, I used GPT-4 to read my cousin's writings on his fictional world and generate a chart of the timeline and concepts using Mermaid syntax. I think one of the best things about LLMs at the moment is that it can conve…

Were you able to paste his writings all in one prompt without exhausting token space? Or did you have to do something tricky to get around that?
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