It truly seems to be the calculator for text.
Tell HN: ChatGPT is fantastic for finding and solving issues in logs
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Re: Tell HN: ChatGPT is fantastic for finding and solving issues in logs
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
lol, indeed. As long as the hallucination problem remains, I think we are going to see a significant hype bubble crash within a year or so. Yes, it is still useful under proper guidance, but building things on full automation that are reliable doesn't seem to be something that is actually within realms of reality at present. More innovations will be required for that.
Never underestimate a hype bubble ;) The crypto one lasted for many years with far fewer use cases than LLMs, even accounting for hallucinations.
We don't even have to go to crypto. AI has had many boom/bust cycles. The term "AI Winter" dates back from the 80s!
Of course, at every cycle we get new tools. The thing is, once tools become mainstream, people stop referring to them as "AI". Take assistants (Amazon Echo, Cortana, Siri, etc). They are doing things that were active areas of "AI" research not long ago. Voice recognition and text to speech were very hard problems. Now people use them without remembering that they were once AI.
I predict that GPT will follow the same cycle. It's way too overhyped right now (because it's impressive, just like Dragon Naturally Speaking was). But people will try to everyday scenarios and – outside of niches – they will be disappointed. Cue crash as investments dry up.
Hopefully this time we won't have too many high profile casualties, like what happened with Lisp Machines.
Re: Tell HN: ChatGPT is fantastic for finding and solving issues in logs
#23systemd is a very common log. I'm curious whether you think this would work on logs for custom software that by necessity didn't have either its logs or writing about its logs in the training set.
No need to think, just.. try it and find out?
Re: Tell HN: ChatGPT is fantastic for finding and solving issues in logs
#24I wish people would focus on these exceptional strengths of the model rather than blabbing about AGI or whatever. Similarly to you, I have been able to find issues with logs, formatting, asking it quick query questions in [whatever flavor of query language XYZ service likes to use], etc.. and it's really, really good. The alternative is to muscle through it, using a lot of energy, writing my own parser or something d…
That's actually the hidden secret. Millions of people are using it to solve their problems quietly - something Google and other companies whose lunch they're eating should be worried about rather than being worried about grand ideas like "AI Safety". Pretty much all of my non-tech family is using it in ways that I never expected: making meal plans, writing school essays, making assignments for students, writing email…
I'm quite curious about some of these applications because I don't really understand what the cognitive work is that's being offloaded.
Making meal plans: what is being done here? making a list of meals to eat each day of the week? isn't this just a question of thinking what one would like to eat? why is it easier to have the meals chosen by someone else?
Writing school essays: what is the point of this? Aren't school essays only written in order to learn to write, or to learn about some other topic?
Writing emails to CRA: presumably you have to put all the pertinent information in the prompt. Can't you just copy that prompt into an email?
(The other couple do seen to make sense to me, fair enough.)
Re: Tell HN: ChatGPT is fantastic for finding and solving issues in logs
#25There's a company that does this log analysis in real time for you called Zebrium
Re: Tell HN: ChatGPT is fantastic for finding and solving issues in logs
#26How does that work with logs? Logs are often... Huge? How many lines of logs can you paste? Because if I first need to narrow down the log to the problematic part, I kinda already have my problem right there no?
Or do you mean I do something like grab the lines with "error" in the log, hoping there aren't too many, then ask ChatGPT what it thinks about this:
[ 0.135036] kernel: ACPI Error: AE_NOT_FOUND, During name lookup/catalog (20210730/psobject-220)Re: Tell HN: ChatGPT is fantastic for finding and solving issues in logs
#27I wish people would focus on these exceptional strengths of the model rather than blabbing about AGI or whatever. Similarly to you, I have been able to find issues with logs, formatting, asking it quick query questions in [whatever flavor of query language XYZ service likes to use], etc.. and it's really, really good. The alternative is to muscle through it, using a lot of energy, writing my own parser or something d…
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Re: Tell HN: ChatGPT is fantastic for finding and solving issues in logs
#28This is a great feature and I did use it few times to test. However, be aware of potentially leaking your company's private or sensitive information when doing this.
Re: Tell HN: ChatGPT is fantastic for finding and solving issues in logs
#29systemd is a very common log. I'm curious whether you think this would work on logs for custom software that by necessity didn't have either its logs or writing about its logs in the training set.
Considering the fact that the RLHF for ChatGPT was done only in English but then worked just as well for every other language I would wager that specific types of logs being present in the training set is less important than it may seem.
Re: Tell HN: ChatGPT is fantastic for finding and solving issues in logs
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's actually the hidden secret. Millions of people are using it to solve their problems quietly - something Google and other companies whose lunch they're eating should be worried about rather than being worried about grand ideas like "AI Safety". Pretty much all of my non-tech family is using it in ways that I never expected: making meal plans, writing school essays, making assignments for students, writing email…
I'm quite curious about some of these applications because I don't really understand what the cognitive work is that's being offloaded. Making meal plans: what is being done here? making a list of meals to eat each day of the week? isn't this just a question of thinking what one would like to eat? why is it easier to have the meals chosen by someone else? Writing school essays: what is the point of this? Aren't schoo…
> Making meal plans: what is being done here? making a list of meals to eat each day of the week? isn't this just a question of thinking what one would like to eat? why is it easier to have the meals chosen by someone else?
Do you have children? Meal planning can be a quite tedious and frustrating task if you want to cook at home, eat healthy, eat tasty, vary the dishes and have meals that kids will accept.