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Spotify abandons Heardle less than a year after buying it

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Re: Spotify abandons Heardle less than a year after buying it

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Post by sleigh-bells »

encoderer wrote: post #23

Spotify, get your shit together. You’ve wasted a fortune in podcasting and now you’ve destroyed your app UX. Nobody wants this crap. Everybody just wants better music discovery and instant access to their favorites.

Does Spotify still not have a way to pick up where you left off on a podcast after venturing into music for a while and coming back? I remember there being something extremely annoying about that very obvious usecase which made me just go back to Pocket Casts, even though that app can't even stream a podcast without some sort of skip or fast forward.

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Post by pie420 »

transcriptase wrote: post #28
encoderer wrote: post #23

Spotify, get your shit together. You’ve wasted a fortune in podcasting and now you’ve destroyed your app UX. Nobody wants this crap. Everybody just wants better music discovery and instant access to their favorites.

Their UX is infuriating compared to a few years ago. Why does it take multiple clicks to get to search? Why are my playlists etc not front and centre? Pop-ups about new albums from artists that they know I’ve never listened to and never would? Every time I use it now, my inner voice is saying “get the fuck out of my way” to the UX itself. What are they optimizing for?

they get paid by Labels to promote certain songs and artists, similar to how labels pay radio to play only certain songs. Everything, from Amazon, to Spotify, to the Google Play Store wants you to click on promoted bullshit, not search for what you actually want. Welcome to the internet in 2023.

Re: Spotify abandons Heardle less than a year after buying it

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Post by h4ch1 »

Just day before I saw Spotify had the same ADHD inducing reels/tiktok style music discovery thing on it. What is it with all these companies using the same UX patterns EVERYWHERE. As one commentor rightly said, Discover Weekly is the only thing keeping me on this platform, they even removed family mixes, my brothers and uncles are on my family plan, and even though we didn't keep in touch a lot that used to be a talking point whenever we met and was such a cool thing.

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Post by transcriptase »

mostlysimilar wrote: post #29
encoderer wrote: post #23

Spotify, get your shit together. You’ve wasted a fortune in podcasting and now you’ve destroyed your app UX. Nobody wants this crap. Everybody just wants better music discovery and instant access to their favorites.

They've been actively destroying their UX for years now. I am so tired of them forcing their Podcasts and audio books and whatever else on me. The one thing I want Spotify to do well is algorithmic discovery. The Discover Weekly playlist is the only thing that keeps me on the service, and yet they make it more and more difficult to find. The position on the home screen is entirely random and unpredictable. The only r…

I saw they had audiobooks, then stumbled around trying to just get a comprehensive list of what they had versus their weird “picks” from categories that don’t seem to exist.

Then I finally found something and saw that not only was it not included in my subscription, but the cost was higher than buying the hardcover on Amazon.

Re: Spotify abandons Heardle less than a year after buying it

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Post by cratermoon »

encoderer wrote: post #23

Spotify, get your shit together. You’ve wasted a fortune in podcasting and now you’ve destroyed your app UX. Nobody wants this crap. Everybody just wants better music discovery and instant access to their favorites.

"Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die."

https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys

Re: Spotify abandons Heardle less than a year after buying it

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Post by ethbr0 »

pie420 wrote: post #32
transcriptase wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their UX is infuriating compared to a few years ago. Why does it take multiple clicks to get to search? Why are my playlists etc not front and centre? Pop-ups about new albums from artists that they know I’ve never listened to and never would? Every time I use it now, my inner voice is saying “get the fuck out of my way” to the UX itself. What are they optimizing for?

they get paid by Labels to promote certain songs and artists, similar to how labels pay radio to play only certain songs. Everything, from Amazon, to Spotify, to the Google Play Store wants you to click on promoted bullshit, not search for what you actually want. Welcome to the internet in 2023.

The difference should be that users pay Spotify for a subscription.

Raise the prices if they need to, but don't try and have a subscription + "whatever ad bucks we can make" model.

Re: Spotify abandons Heardle less than a year after buying it

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Post by scjosh »

mostlysimilar wrote: post #29
encoderer wrote: post #23

Spotify, get your shit together. You’ve wasted a fortune in podcasting and now you’ve destroyed your app UX. Nobody wants this crap. Everybody just wants better music discovery and instant access to their favorites.

They've been actively destroying their UX for years now. I am so tired of them forcing their Podcasts and audio books and whatever else on me. The one thing I want Spotify to do well is algorithmic discovery. The Discover Weekly playlist is the only thing that keeps me on the service, and yet they make it more and more difficult to find. The position on the home screen is entirely random and unpredictable. The only r…

discover weekly is also my favorite, and i was having the same problem with it hopping around. to avoid needing to search for it, you can save it to your library to make it easily findable next to your other playlists. it’ll still auto-update weekly.

Re: Spotify abandons Heardle less than a year after buying it

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Post by broast »

encoderer wrote: post #23

Spotify, get your shit together. You’ve wasted a fortune in podcasting and now you’ve destroyed your app UX. Nobody wants this crap. Everybody just wants better music discovery and instant access to their favorites.

The app ux is buggy and I'm one to complain on spotifys forums about it, but I do wonder about the sentiments in this thread, as I still find having access to spotifys library or capabilities with podcasts, music, playlists, making playlists, downloads, etc, to be a delight and I have not found myself seeking other applications to replace it as it gets so much daily use from me. Am I in the dark about something?

Re: Spotify abandons Heardle less than a year after buying it

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Post by mnd999 »

mnd999 wrote: post #27
javanissen wrote: post #12

They ruined it! Pre-acquisition Heardle played the song from the beginning immediately after you finished guessing. Post-acquisition, you had to open the song in Spotify which introduced a lag of several seconds. The immediate visceral reward of playing the game disappeared.

Pre acquisition it was based on Soundclouds most popular 250, and most of them were well-known enough to be guessable. I've no idea what source they switched it to, but there's a lot of obscure songs which makes it a lot less fun.

Like today’s. No clue.
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