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Was it the same UK government that put Turing into jail?
No, because 1) Turing wasn’t jailed and 2) The Government doesn’t put people in jail; that’s the courts.
1. The legislature makes laws
2. The courts make judgements based on those laws
3. The police officers drag people into jail
All 3 are part of the government.
When someone's life is spinning wildly out of control, they tend to grab onto whatever they can within reach, fixate on and micromanage it, in an attempt to feel a sense of control. Apparently nation states can feel and act the same too.
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The state forced him to undergo chemical castration. Same state kept his achievements and contribution to the war effort a secret up until after his death. Crazy to think he was convicted in 1952. Same year Elizabeth became Queen and head of state. She could have simply overturned his conviction. The man saved women, men, children, of all races and orientations from an horrible end. Had he not cracked the enigma's cr…
If I understand correctly, the “chemical castration” that Turing was subject to, is the same substance that nowadays US kids with gender disphoria are prescribed.
Was it the same UK government that put Turing into jail?
No, because 1) Turing wasn’t jailed and 2) The Government doesn’t put people in jail; that’s the courts.
- The investigators and prosecutors are dependent on the government.
- A judge sentences, but doesn't carry out the punishment.
But certainly the initiative to investigate and prosecute Turing did directly come from the government. It was after all the PM who apologized for it.
This is the same country that considered their advances in computing during World War 2 to be so important that they hid them and left the USA to capitalise on the innovation. We'll leave our poor UK cousins to carry out their "techxit".
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Cleese recently said he is leaving the UK.
Given that he was a proponent of Brexit, I think he really should be forced to stay.
And then we have UK's child Canada trying to their spin on the internet with bill C-18. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Strangely, we get flooded with resumes from England and Canada here in America. Yet the reverse almost never happens. Surely, these laws will help reverse this brain drain...
From the comments here, I’m amused how ready people are to immediately believe anything written on the internet without question. Does critical thinking go out of the window if it appears on a website?
That said, a lot of UK consultation docs never even makes it into parliamentary committees, much less makes it onto the floor even if supported by the majority government, so while people should get involved in the consultation it's a bit early to worry that this has a real shot.
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Strangely, we get flooded with resumes from England and Canada here in America. Yet the reverse almost never happens. Surely, these laws will help reverse this brain drain...
Quite happy working in the UK still. There is no brain drain past the usual one related to being a tiny island but there is a shortage of staff. And we get paid handsomely not to fuck off :)
Was it the same UK government that put Turing into jail?
The state forced him to undergo chemical castration. Same state kept his achievements and contribution to the war effort a secret up until after his death. Crazy to think he was convicted in 1952. Same year Elizabeth became Queen and head of state. She could have simply overturned his conviction. The man saved women, men, children, of all races and orientations from an horrible end. Had he not cracked the enigma's cr…