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Re: UK Proposes Even More Stupid Ideas for Directly Regulating the Internet

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Post by simple-thoughts »

908B64B197 wrote: post #11
quantum_state wrote: post #4

Was it the same UK government that put Turing into jail?

The state forced him to undergo chemical castration. Same state kept his achievements and contribution to the war effort a secret up until after his death. Crazy to think he was convicted in 1952. Same year Elizabeth became Queen and head of state. She could have simply overturned his conviction. The man saved women, men, children, of all races and orientations from an horrible end. Had he not cracked the enigma's cr…

It’s not crazy, it’s exactly what would be expected from any State throughout history. The people who are crazy are the ones who expect something different. As far back as Plato’s Republic, both theory and practice of State require sacrificing the individual for the greater good - where the greater good is defined by those in power. Of course I fully support the State and you should to or else.

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Post by morbia »

This is something that comes up time and time again with our recent string of conservative governments, going back to Cameron. At this point I'm pretty convinced that it is a dead cat strategy to avoid us talking about the lack of fruit and vegetables in the supermarkets.

Or maybe I'm just being hopeful.

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Post by nlitened »

908B64B197 wrote: post #11
quantum_state wrote: post #4

Was it the same UK government that put Turing into jail?

The state forced him to undergo chemical castration. Same state kept his achievements and contribution to the war effort a secret up until after his death. Crazy to think he was convicted in 1952. Same year Elizabeth became Queen and head of state. She could have simply overturned his conviction. The man saved women, men, children, of all races and orientations from an horrible end. Had he not cracked the enigma's cr…

If I understand correctly, the “chemical castration” that Turing was subject to, is the same substance that nowadays US kids with gender disphoria are prescribed.

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Post by tempodox »

jen20 wrote: post #16
andrewstuart wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cleese recently said he is leaving the UK.

Given that he was a proponent of Brexit, I think he really should be forced to stay.

I understand the impulse, but punishing people for having the “wrong” opinion is despotism.

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Post by upwardbound »

desro wrote: post #14
upwardbound wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I'm (non-confrontationally) curious if you fact checked this before posting, or if it was a quick copy and paste. Truly: just curious.

quick copy & paste, as I stated I did not bother to fact check since I'm in the middle of work and in a rush and figured that giving a disclaimer that I didn't fact check it was enuf

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Post by vore »

nlitened wrote: post #24
908B64B197 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The state forced him to undergo chemical castration. Same state kept his achievements and contribution to the war effort a secret up until after his death. Crazy to think he was convicted in 1952. Same year Elizabeth became Queen and head of state. She could have simply overturned his conviction. The man saved women, men, children, of all races and orientations from an horrible end. Had he not cracked the enigma's cr…

If I understand correctly, the “chemical castration” that Turing was subject to, is the same substance that nowadays US kids with gender disphoria are prescribed.

There’s a difference between using it as treatment vs punishment though. That’s like saying they use the same substance for lethal injections (pentobarbital) for treating anxiety.

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Post by defrost »

908B64B197 wrote: post #11
quantum_state wrote: post #4

Was it the same UK government that put Turing into jail?

The state forced him to undergo chemical castration. Same state kept his achievements and contribution to the war effort a secret up until after his death. Crazy to think he was convicted in 1952. Same year Elizabeth became Queen and head of state. She could have simply overturned his conviction. The man saved women, men, children, of all races and orientations from an horrible end. Had he not cracked the enigma's cr…

What the UK legal system did to Turing was barbaric.

Let's agree on that.

> Had he not cracked the enigma's cryptography ..

Err - that was some Polish cryptographers, they also designed and built the first bombes (mechanical decrypters).

Enigma wasn't the only or most significant crypto system used by the Germans during WWII either - William Tutte cracked the Lorenz cipher and Bletchley was packed to the gills with talented mathematicians and engineers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptanalysis_of_the_Enigma#Po...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptanalysis_of_the_Lorenz_ci...

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