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President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Post by durnygbur »

yrgulation wrote: post #20
TheWoodsy wrote: post #12

Their main propaganda news channel has already said (incorrectly) that they are already fighting NATO and US troops in the breakaway areas. Is it time to make this a reality? I really don't see it ending without it happening. russia has shown that it has no regard for the suffering of any troops of any nationality. So purely from a population perspective, Ukraine will fail eventually unless they can effectively force…

Nein. Germany will block it. See, its very convenient to have a weak east europe.

Their automotive industry and demography are on catastrophic crossroads, ~100 mln of people and the land between Germany and Russia are just such convenient resources.

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Post by rozab »

TheWoodsy wrote: post #12

Their main propaganda news channel has already said (incorrectly) that they are already fighting NATO and US troops in the breakaway areas. Is it time to make this a reality? I really don't see it ending without it happening. russia has shown that it has no regard for the suffering of any troops of any nationality. So purely from a population perspective, Ukraine will fail eventually unless they can effectively force…

What are you talking about? Ukraine has clearly demonstrated its ability to make significant territorial gains in the previous weeks. How on earth are you drawing this conclusion?

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Post by _ph_ »

TheWoodsy wrote: post #12

Their main propaganda news channel has already said (incorrectly) that they are already fighting NATO and US troops in the breakaway areas. Is it time to make this a reality? I really don't see it ending without it happening. russia has shown that it has no regard for the suffering of any troops of any nationality. So purely from a population perspective, Ukraine will fail eventually unless they can effectively force…

The Ukraine can do it, if it gets supplied with the weapons to do it. Even with the weapons they got so far, they managed to hurt the Russian military a lot - hence the mobilization. They got some very powerful weapons, but still limited in number and choice. Just delivering long-range ammunition for HIMARS in large numbers might be enough to break any Russian offensive as all supply and all fixed positions were easy targets.

The Ukraine needs a lot of that, more air defense (the German Gepards seem to work quite well) and of course some main battle tanks. There is no need for NATO troops to get directly involved as long as there is enough supply for the Ukraine (Poland still has a bunch of Mig 29 which could be immediately be used by the Ukraine).

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Post by rozab »

globalise83 wrote: post #24

Personally I believe that NATO should occupy the whole of Western Ukraine up to about 100km from the frontline, with a clear warning that any direct fire on NATO troops will result in retaliation. This will free up the Ukrainians to fight Russia on the frontline without worries about Belarus etc.

do you know what occupy means

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Post by KptMarchewa »

TheWoodsy wrote: post #12

Their main propaganda news channel has already said (incorrectly) that they are already fighting NATO and US troops in the breakaway areas. Is it time to make this a reality? I really don't see it ending without it happening. russia has shown that it has no regard for the suffering of any troops of any nationality. So purely from a population perspective, Ukraine will fail eventually unless they can effectively force…

>Ukraine will fail eventually unless they can effectively force-multiply like we've never seen in any other armed conflict.

Ukrainian equipment is getting better with western donations while russian one is effectively running out of it. The newly mobilized units won't have anything better than soviet-era versions of T-72 and T-80, BMP-1 and D-20 howitzer, not even talking about T-62M. Ammo, missle and protective equipment already is getting really low.

Meanwhile, there are serious signals from US to provide M1A1 Abrams sooner than later.

This measure rather aims to prevent looming crushing defeat.

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Post by softwareoiu »

MasterYoda wrote: post #28

I really hope the russian/kreml/putin war against Ukraine will end in a epic failure for them. I also hope that frozen russian assets in west can be confiscated to build up Ukraine again, russia has to be accountable and pay for all madness and horrific things they have done.

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Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Post by grnmamba »

TheWoodsy wrote: post #12

Their main propaganda news channel has already said (incorrectly) that they are already fighting NATO and US troops in the breakaway areas. Is it time to make this a reality? I really don't see it ending without it happening. russia has shown that it has no regard for the suffering of any troops of any nationality. So purely from a population perspective, Ukraine will fail eventually unless they can effectively force…

A direct war between NATO and Russia will go nuclear and cause tens of millions of casualties in the best case

If you want to go and fight, do it yourself

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Post by TheWoodsy »

ralphhughes wrote: post #27
TheWoodsy wrote: post #12

Their main propaganda news channel has already said (incorrectly) that they are already fighting NATO and US troops in the breakaway areas. Is it time to make this a reality? I really don't see it ending without it happening. russia has shown that it has no regard for the suffering of any troops of any nationality. So purely from a population perspective, Ukraine will fail eventually unless they can effectively force…

>Their main propaganda news channel has already said (incorrectly) that they are already fighting NATO and US troops in the breakaway areas. Thats interesting, I'm not doubting you but I would like to see the original source if possible, got a link?

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/157171227106307277...
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