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Alternate perspective: it will be flagged down because HN's community has continually proven incapable of having discussions like this without it turning into a shouting match. It's already happening.
I don't think that should be as big of a deal as it is. I'm guessing it's because it's bad for publicity/ads but the whole "people are mad at each other in the comments! Shut it down!" thing that has taken over is dumb. Have you ever seen how mad people get at each other on the road? Yeah, people suck when they don't have a face in front of them to remind them its a person on the other side. It's disingenuous to pret…
It's worse when you have a person to attribute it to. A bad driver could be a senile old man. A dumb comment could be from some edgy teenager or $0.50 shill. A functional adult who should know better behaving that way is hard to have sympathy for.
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#35I certainly don't, at least not in the way that modern society seems to be pushing for it. A year or two ago a high school was putting on a production of The Hunchback of Notre Dame , and there was a loud minority of students complaining because a white girl was cast as Esmeralda. In the original book, Esmeralda is ethnically French, but Gypsies steal her as an infant and replace her with Quasimodo. Many years later,…
> In the original book, Esmeralda is ethnically French
I mean, I just think that no one seems to be aware of this. She's not French in the movie adaptation, which is what most of those kids would be familiar with. (And the musical does heavily draw from the movie – including leaving out her meeting her mother).
Without the added context of the original book's description, since it seems no one was aware of it, do you think the uproar was justified?
On the other hand, there are examples of the musical performed with a caucasian lead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5wNynK1tHg
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#37When I took ecology in college, to calculate diversity of an ecosystem, we used Shannon's formula from a mathmatical theory of communications. iirc we did it with base e vs base 2 so the units for ecological diversity were in nits.
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#38The purpose of universities is to support state power. A multiethnic state must keep its minorities pacified. The tragedy is international institutions copying USA policies without understanding the core reasons and thus undermining the governments they are meant to support.
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#40It could be that the people do care about the values listed, but don't know an effective way to guarantee them, and that existing diversity statements are a stopgap measure until something better is figured out. But no, let's jump directly to "Conclusion: By and large, they don’t care about diversity. They’re just lying, in a really transparent way, because they think it gives them a patina of legal legitimacy." Or..…
> Or... perhaps don't ascribe to malice that which may be adequately explained by incompetence.
Hanlon's razor is a heuristic which doesn't work very well in this case. Clearly, there is a lot of social pressure to at least pretend to care about diversity, so by default you'd expect at least some people to lie about it.