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I find it impossible to believe people actually think like this and aren't just aggressively defending something terrible because they are invested in the person's companies.
You do realize that the "sexual harrasment" allegation is that Musk asked for a handjob from a massage therapist who was already massaging him as he lay naked... and she declined and that was the end of it... right?
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You do realize that the "sexual harrasment" allegation is that Musk asked for a handjob from a massage therapist who was already massaging him as he lay naked... and she declined and that was the end of it... right?
He then showed his erect penis to her.
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I find it impossible to believe people actually think like this and aren't just aggressively defending something terrible because they are invested in the person's companies.
Have you considered that some people believe most everyone is wrong, that they won’t be told what to do by others, that they are or should be in complete control their lives, that they live by their own rules, that The Man is keeping them down, etc? Musk personifies that belief system.
"You have to work in the factory even though there's a deadly virus spreading around." - Musk to his employees
But hey, pandemic shamdemic right, since the Musk said so :)
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You do realize that the "sexual harrasment" allegation is that Musk asked for a handjob from a massage therapist who was already massaging him as he lay naked... and she declined and that was the end of it... right?
He then showed his erect penis to her.
Still, for the courts to decide.
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He then showed his erect penis to her.
And paid $250K of company money for her to keep quiet about it.
I'm curious. What is best practice here. Set up HR tribunals? Fire anyone who has a complaint made against them? Arrange counseling for affected parties? Offer voluntary arbitration?
Handle it in court. Sexual harassment is a crime, and we already have a legal system to deal with it. Arbitration / counseling / punishment within the company is ok as long as its voluntary (by the victim). If whatever occurred isn't actually a crime, then you handle it with arbitration which is not voluntary (because the company doesn't technically need to do anything). If the company wants to fire the accused even…
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That the media doesn't like being teased by Musk, and the establishment is doing it's best to push out people who don't play along?
I find it impossible to believe people actually think like this and aren't just aggressively defending something terrible because they are invested in the person's companies.
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He then showed his erect penis to her.
I could reasonably see it being accidental. Boners can happen at quite bad times. I could also see the asking for a handjob being a badly done joke. Still, for the courts to decide.
"Badly done jokes" can still absolutely be straight up sexual harassment. You can't "it's just a prank bro" your way out of putting someone in that terrible position
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I could reasonably see it being accidental. Boners can happen at quite bad times. I could also see the asking for a handjob being a badly done joke. Still, for the courts to decide.
>badly done joke "Badly done jokes" can still absolutely be straight up sexual harassment. You can't "it's just a prank bro" your way out of putting someone in that terrible position
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Handle it in court. Sexual harassment is a crime, and we already have a legal system to deal with it. Arbitration / counseling / punishment within the company is ok as long as its voluntary (by the victim). If whatever occurred isn't actually a crime, then you handle it with arbitration which is not voluntary (because the company doesn't technically need to do anything). If the company wants to fire the accused even…
The issue is that the standards of proof is much higher in criminal cases. There's no way to defend against fraudulent or frivolous accusations
Hell, many sexual assault, harassment, and rape cases don't meet the standards of criminal proof because there's often not good physical evidence and "they did it" "no I didn't" isn't proof either.