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Re: Shabdle: Wordle in Hindi

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Post by bakul »

txtsd wrote: post #21
umeshunni wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do most Hindi speakers now use the Latin script?

Yes, and it's awful because it isn't standardized. Current generations frequently use only consonants to type out a word and I have no idea how to pronounce them. For example "hai" (pronounced "hey") roughly translates to "is". I literally see kids typing a singular "h" instead.

For most Indian languages you can use IAST & can use an IAST keyboard, as it transliterates sanskrit based letters precisely. Though I don’t know why people don’t just use the original scripts as they are much more beautiful and you can find (virtual) keyboards for them even for ios & android.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Alphabet_of_Sans...

Re: Shabdle: Wordle in Hindi

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Post by captn3m0 »

umeshunni wrote: post #16
tnsittpsif wrote: post #10

Speak Hindi all day, but cannot guess a single letter in a 100 tries! Shows how much this language's usage in writing and reading has declined.

Do most Hindi speakers now use the Latin script?

Depends a lot on the medium and the demographic. Twitter has a lot of native Hindi users, and there’s more on some platforms such as Sharechat which focus on Indic languages.

Twitter even does a good enough job of translating Hindi written in the Devnagri script. Doesn’t work if you use Latin script obviously.

Re: Shabdle: Wordle in Hindi

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Post by captn3m0 »

plibither8 wrote: post #13
HexDecOctBin wrote: post #6

One tip: don't use words with a sandhi [1] (like today's word). It makes guessing it many more times harder, since you are actually guessing two (or more) words in addition to the joining letters. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandhi

I agree with this suggestion! However, I wonder if it's only because we don't read and write Hindi on a daily basis (as compared to English). Also, I'd just like to say that this take of Hindi Wordle is the best so far - fill in the व्यंजन (consonants) with the स्वर (vowels) supplied as hints.

Even then, today’s word is pretty impossible to guess. The Wordle formula is too restrictive for a language like Hindi.

Written word-games aren’t a thing in Hindi (like Hangman for eg) but we do have a lot of stuff rhyme based games. Probably other ways to tackle this better.

Re: Shabdle: Wordle in Hindi

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Post by throwaway158497 »

umeshunni wrote: post #16
tnsittpsif wrote: post #10

Speak Hindi all day, but cannot guess a single letter in a 100 tries! Shows how much this language's usage in writing and reading has declined.

Do most Hindi speakers now use the Latin script?

Not really. news channels, print media, billboards, internet websites use devanagari script. But in Messenger apps, FB, Telegram, people use latin script.

Re: Shabdle: Wordle in Hindi

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Post by perryizgr8 »

The problem is that it is nigh impossible to guess a word that is both valid and incorrect, at least on today's puzzle. It consists of three letters. The first two have a o matra and the last has half ka and an e matra. I literally can't think of any word that satisfies these conditions, except the correct answer.

The game won't highlight anything if your guess is not a valid word. So it was impossible for me to get any hint at all. I kept trying random letters and made over a hundred guesses but not a single yellow or green.

I think the author should fix this. If a selected letter occurs in any part of the answer, it should be highlighted even if the guess is not a valid word. That's the only reasonable way to make this work with Hindi.

Re: Shabdle: Wordle in Hindi

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Post by abdullahkhalids »

Here is the Urdu version https://urdle.chaoticity.com/

I would like someone to do an analysis of quantifying difficulty in terms of alphabet size, word size, and vocabulary size. Because I don't know what the actual difficulty here is vs the English or the Hindi version.

That would be first order analysis. Second order analysis would consider the structure of words in different languages, such as how often pairs of letters occur together etc.

Re: Shabdle: Wordle in Hindi

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Post by plibither8 »

txtsd wrote: post #21
umeshunni wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do most Hindi speakers now use the Latin script?

Yes, and it's awful because it isn't standardized. Current generations frequently use only consonants to type out a word and I have no idea how to pronounce them. For example "hai" (pronounced "hey") roughly translates to "is". I literally see kids typing a singular "h" instead.

Welp, don't get me started on the "hai"->"h" contractions! The one that irks me the most is अच्छा (good, pronounced "uh-ch-aah" with a hard and emphasized "ch") is written as "axa" in chats (more popularly written as "achha").
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