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Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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Post by subsubzero »

smoldesu wrote: post #15

I don't really have much to say here besides "play FFVI", so I'll just sing it's praises: it's one of the most underrated JRPGs ever made, even though it's still pretty well-known. Despite being overshadowed by it's successor, FFVI has always sat in my heart as having one of the most fascinating stories, best music and greatest characters of any SNES RPG, or SNES game in general. I hold it in higher regards than I do…

Its such a great game, I think the story might be my favorite of all the final fantasy games, I like chrono trigger overall more but the story of FFVI cannot be beat.

Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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Post by djur »

I'm generally a Woolsey apologist, but the GBA localization of FF VI is pretty much definitive. Censorship aside, there are a lot of little details that were mistranslated or omitted in the SNES version, and the plot is less clear than it could be as a result. The GBA localization fixes a lot of errors and IMO retains a lot of flavor, even keeping or adapting some of Woolsey's jokes ("son of a submariner" -> "son of a sandworm").

This is a situation unlike FF IV, where there really is no "perfect" localization (the SNES translation is pretty rough, the PS and GBA translations have some inaccuracies and out-of-place jokes, and the DS translation is high quality but very stylized, plus the game is fundamentally different). It's also unlike Chrono Trigger, where the Woolsey translation is similarly riddled with inaccuracies, but the accurate DS translation is pretty boring.

Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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Post by HideousKojima »

robbiex88 wrote: post #18

Surprised to see FFVI mentioned here in HN. That said, I HIGHLY recommend playing thru the recently released FFVI-T edition that's recently become available thanks to an incredible translation effort by Tomato. It corrects a number of mistranslations and adds a TON of content and scales up the difficulty. I thoroughly enjoyed the replay. The original release: http://tomato.fobby.net/ff6-t-edition/ Which now directs i…

Hadn't heard of this, but given how well done his translation of Mother 3 was it's got to be great

Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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Post by 0xcde4c3db »

andrewclunn wrote: post #11
standardUser wrote: post #2

Fans should also check out the Brave New World mod for the game (excellent changes to combat and gameplay, plus tons of minor tweaks and improvements) and the T edition (massive Japanese expansion that was recently released in English).

If we're recommending the best alternative hacks, my favored FF6 one is Final Fantasy 6: Divergent Paths http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/5997/ And for other Super Nintendo greats: Super Metroid Turbo! http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/4778/ Chrono Trigger + http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3691/ Zelda Randomizer https://alttpr.com/en

> Zelda Randomizer https://alttpr.com/en

Not to mention the mindblowing Super Metroid / A Link to the Past Crossover Randomizer [1], which had a race at SGDQ 2019 [2].

[1] https://samus.link/

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uujsW7yFkZU

Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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Post by pvg »

jevoten wrote: post #26
pvg wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what this has to do with anything I wrote but Faust and the Iliad are among the most retold, re-adapted, re-interpreted stories out there. That's a good thing, as is re-translating, re-editing, re-modding and re-everything-ing old games.

But this was not a re-adaption or a re-interpretation, this was the only version available in the US, and marketed as the same game, only translated. I honestly don't see how one could in good faith mistake a translation for a re-interpretation. What's next - because translation is somewhat subjective, that means anything goes?

I'm sorry, I'm still having a hard time following what thing I said you're objecting to.

Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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Post by djur »

jevoten wrote: post #19
pvg wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For whatever strange reason, people in this field call all sorts of minor changes in the text and images to better fit regional tastes and cultural norms 'censorship'. That's not to say some of these changes aren't ill-conceived or silly but the term makes it sound like something far more sinister than what it is. https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Censorship#Final_Fantas...

Perhaps the people in this field would like to experience the tastes and norms of a different culture, so they don't appreciate this Bowdlerization. Would you edit Faust or the Illiad to "better fit regional tastes and cultural norms"? How about the Godfather?

Final Fantasy VI is not a game about Japanese culture. Turning onigiri into donuts is one thing, but good localization needs to help the new audience understand the story as it was interpreted by its original audience.

That said, most of the censorship in this game had little to do with "cultural norms" and a lot to do with Nintendo of America applying extremely strict standards to games, which itself had as much to do with politics and market maneuvering as it did American culture:

https://www.filfre.net/2021/04/the-ratings-game-part-2-the-h...

> Senator Lieberman: So, people actually complain that they can’t have the more violent game on the Nintendo system? > Howard Lincoln: That’s correct. Letters and phone calls say, “Leave in the violence! You’re censoring!”

Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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Post by aquova »

andrewclunn wrote: post #11
standardUser wrote: post #2

Fans should also check out the Brave New World mod for the game (excellent changes to combat and gameplay, plus tons of minor tweaks and improvements) and the T edition (massive Japanese expansion that was recently released in English).

If we're recommending the best alternative hacks, my favored FF6 one is Final Fantasy 6: Divergent Paths http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/5997/ And for other Super Nintendo greats: Super Metroid Turbo! http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/4778/ Chrono Trigger + http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3691/ Zelda Randomizer https://alttpr.com/en

I'm a big Chrono Trigger fan but I haven't tried any mods. Are there any others that are recommended? I know there are some that function more as sequels, but I don't know how good they are.

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Post by tasha0663 »

djur wrote: post #36
jevoten wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps the people in this field would like to experience the tastes and norms of a different culture, so they don't appreciate this Bowdlerization. Would you edit Faust or the Illiad to "better fit regional tastes and cultural norms"? How about the Godfather?

Final Fantasy VI is not a game about Japanese culture. Turning onigiri into donuts is one thing, but good localization needs to help the new audience understand the story as it was interpreted by its original audience. That said, most of the censorship in this game had little to do with "cultural norms" and a lot to do with Nintendo of America applying extremely strict standards to games, which itself had as much to…

> Turning onigiri into donuts is one thing

Good old Brock and his homemade jelly donuts

Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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Post by aabajian »

This game is fantastic, I was fortunate to go to the 25th Anniversary concert in Chicago. It's reportedly Nobuo Uematsu's favorite game as well.

Also, FFVI is the only game (to my knowledge) officially released on 8 different platforms across four console generations: SNES, Playstation, Wii Virtual Console, GameBoy Advance, iOS, Android, Steam, and SNES Classic Edition.

The story is so good, I've thought they should make a movie or TV series from it (though such FF movies have had a bad track record).

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