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Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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standardUser wrote: post #2

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Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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solarmist wrote: post #4

Can someone explain the issue here? I loved FF VI (US III), but I haven't heard of it being censored. Edit: https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Censorship#Final_Fantas... Looks like the level of censorship is way below my threshold of what is "news", but a nice clean-up job nonetheless.

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Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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Post by mlyle »

pvg wrote: post #7
solarmist wrote: post #4

Can someone explain the issue here? I loved FF VI (US III), but I haven't heard of it being censored. Edit: https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Censorship#Final_Fantas... Looks like the level of censorship is way below my threshold of what is "news", but a nice clean-up job nonetheless.

For whatever strange reason, people in this field call all sorts of minor changes in the text and images to better fit regional tastes and cultural norms 'censorship'. That's not to say some of these changes aren't ill-conceived or silly but the term makes it sound like something far more sinister than what it is. https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Censorship#Final_Fantas...

> changes aren't ill-conceived or silly but the term makes it sound like something far more sinister than what it is.

I don't think any of it is sinister, but I remember finding out about changes that watered down the game and being sad about them. It's neat that people are trying to fuse together what most people consider the good translation with more of the original intent.

Some bits of it are a bummer: Relm used a tone of speaking that was not appropriate for kids in Japan. Choosing to "clean up" her language too much alters the story.

Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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Post by pvg »

solarmist wrote: post #9
pvg wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For whatever strange reason, people in this field call all sorts of minor changes in the text and images to better fit regional tastes and cultural norms 'censorship'. That's not to say some of these changes aren't ill-conceived or silly but the term makes it sound like something far more sinister than what it is. https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Censorship#Final_Fantas...

From the link: >Kefka's line when the party flees from him on chocobos was changed. In the Japanese version he says "ヒーーーー くっそ！ このかりは必ず返しますよ！", literally translated to "Arggg.... you scums! I will definitely pay you back for this!". In the overseas release, depending on the version, he either says "Son of a submariner! They'll pay for this..." (SNES/PSX version) or "Son of a sandworm! You'll pay for this..." (GBA/PC/…

It's probably best to think of it as a kind of domain-specific term of art. Same goes for the 'news' in HN's title - the site has about the same relationship to 'news' as USENET newsgroups, the city of Newport News or the word 'sinews'.

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Post by smoldesu »

I don't really have much to say here besides "play FFVI", so I'll just sing it's praises: it's one of the most underrated JRPGs ever made, even though it's still pretty well-known. Despite being overshadowed by it's successor, FFVI has always sat in my heart as having one of the most fascinating stories, best music and greatest characters of any SNES RPG, or SNES game in general. I hold it in higher regards than I do Mother 2/Earthbound, Chrono Trigger and all the previous Final Fantasy games. If you're snowed in this weekend, I highly recommend booting it up, or at least listening to it's musical motifs. Kefka's theme and Dancing Mad makes One-Winged Angel sound like a toothlessly sane track in comparison.

Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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Post by astrange »

drusepth wrote: post #6
solarmist wrote: post #4

Can someone explain the issue here? I loved FF VI (US III), but I haven't heard of it being censored. Edit: https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Censorship#Final_Fantas... Looks like the level of censorship is way below my threshold of what is "news", but a nice clean-up job nonetheless.

I found some (very mild) examples of censorship mentioned elsewhere [1], but I also don't understand the hype here: >In the original North American SNES version the spell Holy was renamed "Pearl", the summon "Jihad" was renamed to "Crusader", and Hell's Rider to "Rider". Many sprites were also censored. Overly revealing sprites, such as Siren, Lakshmi (Starlet), Alluring Rider (Critic), Chadarnook (woman), Goddess, P…

Gamers are obsessed with censorship and think that anything changed from the original region release is oppression, even if the original creators approved of it. Japan of course does censor some things too.

This isn't enough to stop it from happening, because when you don't do it your entire release gets banned in other countries (UK and Australia are known for this.)

Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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Post by astrange »

smoldesu wrote: post #15

I don't really have much to say here besides "play FFVI", so I'll just sing it's praises: it's one of the most underrated JRPGs ever made, even though it's still pretty well-known. Despite being overshadowed by it's successor, FFVI has always sat in my heart as having one of the most fascinating stories, best music and greatest characters of any SNES RPG, or SNES game in general. I hold it in higher regards than I do…

There's finally a good official release of it on Steam. Every time they release it they mess something up - last time it was amateurish new graphics, this time it's "just" the English font is bad, but I think you can patch that.

Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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Post by robbiex88 »

Surprised to see FFVI mentioned here in HN. That said, I HIGHLY recommend playing thru the recently released FFVI-T edition that's recently become available thanks to an incredible translation effort by Tomato. It corrects a number of mistranslations and adds a TON of content and scales up the difficulty. I thoroughly enjoyed the replay.

The original release: http://tomato.fobby.net/ff6-t-edition/

Which now directs interested folks to: http://ngplus.net/index.php?/forums/topic/1249-matos-transla...

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Post by jevoten »

pvg wrote: post #7
solarmist wrote: post #4

Can someone explain the issue here? I loved FF VI (US III), but I haven't heard of it being censored. Edit: https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Censorship#Final_Fantas... Looks like the level of censorship is way below my threshold of what is "news", but a nice clean-up job nonetheless.

For whatever strange reason, people in this field call all sorts of minor changes in the text and images to better fit regional tastes and cultural norms 'censorship'. That's not to say some of these changes aren't ill-conceived or silly but the term makes it sound like something far more sinister than what it is. https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Censorship#Final_Fantas...

Perhaps the people in this field would like to experience the tastes and norms of a different culture, so they don't appreciate this Bowdlerization. Would you edit Faust or the Illiad to "better fit regional tastes and cultural norms"? How about the Godfather?

Re: Final Fantasy VI – Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

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Post by bitwize »

solarmist wrote: post #9
pvg wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For whatever strange reason, people in this field call all sorts of minor changes in the text and images to better fit regional tastes and cultural norms 'censorship'. That's not to say some of these changes aren't ill-conceived or silly but the term makes it sound like something far more sinister than what it is. https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Censorship#Final_Fantas...

From the link: >Kefka's line when the party flees from him on chocobos was changed. In the Japanese version he says "ヒーーーー くっそ！ このかりは必ず返しますよ！", literally translated to "Arggg.... you scums! I will definitely pay you back for this!". In the overseas release, depending on the version, he either says "Son of a submariner! They'll pay for this..." (SNES/PSX version) or "Son of a sandworm! You'll pay for this..." (GBA/PC/…

I'm not sure that example is censorship so much as "You spoony bard" tier creative license with the translation. It added color to the game.

One of my favorites from the same game... When Figaro Castle is set on fire, one of the imperial guards says "Fire! Fire! Heh heh heh..." implying that he is Beavis.

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