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Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the city to bike paths

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Re: Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the city to bike paths

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Meanwhile our idiot city (Oxford, UK) is spending £1.2m on "Quickways", which are painted lines on existing roads... guaranteed to keep cyclists 0% safe. This in the face of national Government guidance in favour of physical segregation from cars. (Plans at https://letstalk.oxfordshire.gov.uk/quickway-cycle-route-oxf... : the promise of "segregation where possible" in reality means about 5% of the network.) It is rea…

It's equally frustrating how a certain class of people, i.e. rabid anti-car cyclists, only read publications within their bubble that are equally anti-car, while constantly throwing shade at any country that is not the paradise Netherlands. I encourage you to take that next step: only commenting on these type of stories within your bubble.

I agree with you. Having a car maximizes your opportunity, so by making it difficult and expensive to own a car and drive hurts the people who need the help the most.

Re: Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the city to bike paths

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Meanwhile our idiot city (Oxford, UK) is spending £1.2m on "Quickways", which are painted lines on existing roads... guaranteed to keep cyclists 0% safe. This in the face of national Government guidance in favour of physical segregation from cars. (Plans at https://letstalk.oxfordshire.gov.uk/quickway-cycle-route-oxf... : the promise of "segregation where possible" in reality means about 5% of the network.) It is rea…

So what would you propose as a solution specifically for Oxford? Many streets such as Abingdon Rd are already narrow enough and I can't see how one could segregate a dedicated lane for cyclists there.

And that's why the national cycling network actively avoids Abingdon Rd: https://explore.osmaps.com/en/route/3647727/Sustrans-Hanson-...

Re: Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the city to bike paths

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Here in Berlin you can easily get with the bike through the entire city. If you survive that is a different topic, but you could if you wanted! IMHO the future lies somewhere between bikes, elon musk and the city tram. What we actually need is a vehicle that fullfills all criteria in some form. For instance: getting out of your apartment and onto one of those scooters to the next subway station where you either conne…

> Here in Berlin you can easily get with the bike through the entire city. If you survive that is a different topic, but you could if you wanted!

I live and bike through the city year-round. I think the only part of the city where I have to share the road with cars is Mitte. But like any sane person I'm never there

Re: Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the city to bike paths

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Now if they could just pick up all the trash and dog shit, we'll be great.

Milan has no problem with trash I also don’t think that this “benaltrismo” is useful :)

Looking out of the window in Cinisello where I am right now, I'd be inclined to disagree with you. Far far different to Sweden, where I normally live.

Re: Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the city to bike paths

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Aaaah completion-date 2035. I see where that’s going (although I’ll be happy to be surprised)

Apparently the first new paths are opening this summer. If they have a regular cadence of opening new paths and prioritize connecting a network together, it won’t matter if they only end up building half because the half they did manage to build could still be a huge improvement.

Re: Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the city to bike paths

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Meanwhile our idiot city (Oxford, UK) is spending £1.2m on "Quickways", which are painted lines on existing roads... guaranteed to keep cyclists 0% safe. This in the face of national Government guidance in favour of physical segregation from cars. (Plans at https://letstalk.oxfordshire.gov.uk/quickway-cycle-route-oxf... : the promise of "segregation where possible" in reality means about 5% of the network.) It is rea…

NYC has, at least in Brooklyn, a quite extensive bike lanes network. It's of very inconsistent quality, besides workarounds that are tolerable given circumstance, like that the path cuts off at one point and resumes on the other lane in the street, the abundance of bike lanes that lack any separation at all from the main street makes it so morons use it as a place to stop their cars or trucks, and then you have to ma…

Cars and trucks? That's nothing. Go along Vernon Blvd in Queens and you might be interrupted by large commercial dumpster-trailers being staged in your lane.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHZG-kPX0AQs4wf?format=jpg&name=...

Re: Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the city to bike paths

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If you live in a region where bike infrastructure is underfunded, and car infrastructure is overfunded, it’s probable that’s because cycling is viewed as a recreational activity in your area and thus undeserving of tax dollars compared to ‘essential’ car travel. If you disagree with that, (and live in a democracy) let someone know! Find out who controls the infrastructure spending in your area and call/email them.

>>If you disagree with that, (and live in a democracy) let someone know! You know, I'm not sure that in the current moment in time there's much correlation between living in a democracy and the efficacy of petitioning the municipality/ government/ etc.

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