Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the city to bike paths
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Re: Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the city to bike paths
#2I wish my country would invest more into cycling infrastructure, £200m for 750km of track seems like a pretty good deal (if it's useful). Road infrastructure costs vary, but the last figure I read was around £10m/mile for the UK.
Re: Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the city to bike paths
#3Now if they could just pick up all the trash and dog shit, we'll be great.
Re: Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the city to bike paths
#4Now if they could just pick up all the trash and dog shit, we'll be great.
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Re: Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the city to bike paths
#5Meanwhile our idiot city (Oxford, UK) is spending £1.2m on "Quickways", which are painted lines on existing roads... guaranteed to keep cyclists 0% safe. This in the face of national Government guidance in favour of physical segregation from cars. (Plans at https://letstalk.oxfordshire.gov.uk/quickway-cycle-route-oxf...: the promise of "segregation where possible" in reality means about 5% of the network.)
It is really frustrating how highway engineers, as a profession, are unwilling to consistently learn lessons from the Netherlands in designing cycle infrastructure. Many cities seem to delight in half-assing their own solutions. So congratulations to Milan, who look like they may have got it right.
Re: Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the city to bike paths
#6Here in Berlin you can easily get with the bike through the entire city. If you survive that is a different topic, but you could if you wanted!
IMHO the future lies somewhere between bikes, elon musk and the city tram. What we actually need is a vehicle that fullfills all criteria in some form.
For instance: getting out of your apartment and onto one of those scooters to the next subway station where you either connect directly to the railroad or will be able to reach you destination unil the "last mile" where another scooter waits for you.... But we know how that goes and nobody actually will care about the scooter enough to return or take care of it.
So what do we do? Uber-Tesla-Subway pods. I call it by phone, it shows up to my house, either transfers me or lets me dock with the subway and then brings me the last mile just to leave me there for the next thing it has to do.
Self driving will mean the end of individual driving at that might not be as bad as we think it will be.
Re: Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the city to bike paths
#7Now if they could just pick up all the trash and dog shit, we'll be great.
Milan has no problem with trash
I also don’t think that this “benaltrismo” is useful :)
Re: Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the city to bike paths
#8Meanwhile our idiot city (Oxford, UK) is spending £1.2m on "Quickways", which are painted lines on existing roads... guaranteed to keep cyclists 0% safe. This in the face of national Government guidance in favour of physical segregation from cars. (Plans at https://letstalk.oxfordshire.gov.uk/quickway-cycle-route-oxf... : the promise of "segregation where possible" in reality means about 5% of the network.) It is rea…
It's equally frustrating how a certain class of people, i.e. rabid anti-car cyclists, only read publications within their bubble that are equally anti-car, while constantly throwing shade at any country that is not the paradise Netherlands. I encourage you to take that next step: only commenting on these type of stories within your bubble.
Re: Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the city to bike paths
#9If you live in a region where bike infrastructure is underfunded, and car infrastructure is overfunded, it’s probable that’s because cycling is viewed as a recreational activity in your area and thus undeserving of tax dollars compared to ‘essential’ car travel.
If you disagree with that, (and live in a democracy) let someone know! Find out who controls the infrastructure spending in your area and call/email them.
Re: Milan confirms new cycling network linking 80% of the city to bike paths
#10Meanwhile our idiot city (Oxford, UK) is spending £1.2m on "Quickways", which are painted lines on existing roads... guaranteed to keep cyclists 0% safe. This in the face of national Government guidance in favour of physical segregation from cars. (Plans at https://letstalk.oxfordshire.gov.uk/quickway-cycle-route-oxf... : the promise of "segregation where possible" in reality means about 5% of the network.) It is rea…
You want to move yourself oop north, Greater Manchester's "Bee Network" delivers fully segregated cycle lanes - they've just done a large tranche of work to the roads south of Stockport to resize the road to make the walkways wider.
That said, haven't seen them actually used yet. Pass a lot more cyclists that choose the road, still.