France says 110k fake health passes in circulation

Post by jeidz » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 3:53 PM UTC

mytailorisrich wrote: post #21

ekianjo wrote: post #9

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> they’re not fighting against authoritarianism mandatory injection of substances in your body without one's consent is the textbook definition of authoritarianism. Not the first time it happened in History.

In France 11 vaccines are mandatory by law for children, starting soon after birth. The number of people who have a problem with that is minuscule and infinitely smaller than the number of people who have a problem with Covid vaccines, which are not mandatory. To me this highlights the high degree of irrationality and of misplaced " fight for freedom " we're seeing.

Post by adriancr » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 7:07 PM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #25

adriancr wrote: post #17

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So it is voluntary. People just dont like the consequences of their actions. > am against 'vaccination passports' These are required when visiting certain countries where you are expected to be vaccinated against certain diseases. Also for citizenship in most places (TB vaccine + scan of lungs, all other expected vaccines...) So its merely adding a new vaccine to the already existing lists.

> So its merely adding a new vaccine to the already existing lists. First, it's not a vaccine like the other ones, since the infection still spreads among vaccinated people. It does not sterilize the virus at all. It simply protects YOU, and only you, from the worst effects. Second, why stop at vaccines then? Let's have passports for everything under the sun like China with their social score, and let's remove any ki…

Post by ekianjo » Sun, Dec 19, 2021, 10:59 AM UTC

Schiendelman wrote: post #29

ekianjo wrote: post #26

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> . If they do not they can't expect to be allowed to spread the disease and potentially kill other people. Wrong argument to use since vaccinated people spread the virus just as well. Get your facts right when you want to debate. Also, if you are vaccinated your risk of dying is virtually zero, so why would YOU care?

Vaccinated people are much less likely to spread the virus. This is well documented: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/vaccinated-people... We vaccinated care about those who can’t get vaccinated as well. It’s telling that many of the unvaccinated ask this question; it’s basic empathy.

Post by theGeatZhopa » Tue, Dec 21, 2021, 10:42 AM UTC

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theGeatZhopa wrote: post #2

Sounds stupid. In Germany we have a case now. One nurse faked her vaccination pass, not just to be able to say she's vaccinated but also in terms not to do the testings anymore. Her husband got infected and she still went to her workplace - always saying there is no need to be quarantined for vaccinated. She then developed Symptoms by herself - in the meantime her colleagues got infected and some patients, of who 3 d…

This story makes no sense. Vaccinated people get infected and spread virus just the same as non vaccinated people, the only difference is the severity of the infection.