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Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by dylan604 »

SamuelAdams wrote: post #26
rhacker wrote: post #15

Facebook keeps asking Congress to make laws. How about this one: Peripherals, including mice, monitors, keyboards, VR headsets or any other device used to process input or output from a computer, may NOT be connected to any cloud service with an account. Any such cloud connections MUST be for software updates only and software updates MUST be capable of permanent opt-out without any loss of usage. I mean I grew up wi…

Docking stations and printers too. Here’s a recent HP printer that requires an account. https://reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/pwrgb1/buyer_beware_s...

Thanks. I don't typically read reddit, so I had not seen this. Starting to contemplate getting a new inkjet for the home office. I now have something else to keep in mind during the researching. This plus all of the ink jet forensic marking, I'm leaning towards the extra cost for color laser instead, and definitely not an HP.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by kfarr »

rhacker wrote: post #15

Facebook keeps asking Congress to make laws. How about this one: Peripherals, including mice, monitors, keyboards, VR headsets or any other device used to process input or output from a computer, may NOT be connected to any cloud service with an account. Any such cloud connections MUST be for software updates only and software updates MUST be capable of permanent opt-out without any loss of usage. I mean I grew up wi…

This has to apply to "smart tvs" too. Those things are out of control.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by ekianjo »

revolvingocelot wrote: post #19
kova12 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's GrapheneOS

...which is doomed to death whenever Google stops with the security updates for the very specific hardware it runs on. In fairness, IIRC, this is actually the fault of Qualcomm providing, and eventually ceasing to provide, Google with hardware security updates of some sort. The point is that these fun projects to circumvent baked-in awfulness are practically destined to stop working properly due to the nature of the…

So on phone the only real alternative is SailFishOS ?

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by rhacker »

dylan604 wrote: post #27
rhacker wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean I don't see why this couldn't apply cart-blanche to all computers. I don't need to sign into MS, Mac to use the computers (though I do for my mac because of corp. policy). It has been getting harder, but fuck, why not use this opportunity to turn this shit around?

You do need to sign into MS to use Word, Excel, Outlook, etc.

I get that, but that's software on the main device. I guess yes, wording such a law will be a crap and a half.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by ekianjo »

dylan604 wrote: post #22
whyrusleeping wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> GrapheneOS is compatible with several Google Pixel smartphones. That doesn't bode well for things working all that well. As someone who ran linux on chromebook for two years, then on a macbook for three, i'm a bit burnt out on this sort of thing.

It's like a rite of passage or something to hack and then install your own thing fighting harder than a salmon swimming up stream. There's a lot to be learned in the doing to be sure. It's the full of piss&vinegar stage of life. Eventually, you get tired of the time required to fight it, and just need something to work. Does that mean the man won? Maybe. However, I look at it like I won on finally becoming mature eno…

> need something to work

things can work and respect your freedom at the same time. its not like either or.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by akerl_ »

rhacker wrote: post #15

Facebook keeps asking Congress to make laws. How about this one: Peripherals, including mice, monitors, keyboards, VR headsets or any other device used to process input or output from a computer, may NOT be connected to any cloud service with an account. Any such cloud connections MUST be for software updates only and software updates MUST be capable of permanent opt-out without any loss of usage. I mean I grew up wi…

Why is it desirable for Congress to make laws limiting how electronics manufacturers can design their electronics?

If Facebook wants to make a VR headset that requires that you upload a monthly video of you doing the chicken dance, just don’t buy their product.

Attempting to use government to make private entities build the kinds of technology you like is a pretty heavy hammer to drop on individual freedoms.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by dylan604 »

dTal wrote: post #30
dylan604 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's like a rite of passage or something to hack and then install your own thing fighting harder than a salmon swimming up stream. There's a lot to be learned in the doing to be sure. It's the full of piss&vinegar stage of life. Eventually, you get tired of the time required to fight it, and just need something to work. Does that mean the man won? Maybe. However, I look at it like I won on finally becoming mature eno…

I'm not sure that enjoyment of the latest tech toys is more important than the fight for freedom, to be honest.

If that's the fight you are fighting, then by all means keep up the fight. Being able to do basic computer activities privately is a definite need. Hacking what's essentially a gaming device from FB is just not that critical to me.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by dTal »

ekianjo wrote: post #35
dylan604 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's like a rite of passage or something to hack and then install your own thing fighting harder than a salmon swimming up stream. There's a lot to be learned in the doing to be sure. It's the full of piss&vinegar stage of life. Eventually, you get tired of the time required to fight it, and just need something to work. Does that mean the man won? Maybe. However, I look at it like I won on finally becoming mature eno…

> need something to work things can work and respect your freedom at the same time. its not like either or.

It is always nice when the idealistic choice lines up with the exciting, or pragmatic choice. Sadly, in the world of hardware at least, this is seldom the case.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by kova12 »

gremloni wrote: post #21
kova12 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's GrapheneOS

How is this a resonable option? There are two mature ecosystems and really nothing can compare right now.

And how do you think we will be getting third mature ecosystem if we never try anything? Complaining is easy
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