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Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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This is similar to iOS or Android. You can stand on your soapbox and preach to the choir, but at the end of the day there is only so many choices. I like this solution because you still get to use the hardware and use the apps, but it denies the overlords of the thing they want the most.

There's GrapheneOS

How is this a resonable option? There are two mature ecosystems and really nothing can compare right now.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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There's GrapheneOS

> GrapheneOS is compatible with several Google Pixel smartphones. That doesn't bode well for things working all that well. As someone who ran linux on chromebook for two years, then on a macbook for three, i'm a bit burnt out on this sort of thing.

It's like a rite of passage or something to hack and then install your own thing fighting harder than a salmon swimming up stream. There's a lot to be learned in the doing to be sure. It's the full of piss&vinegar stage of life. Eventually, you get tired of the time required to fight it, and just need something to work. Does that mean the man won? Maybe. However, I look at it like I won on finally becoming mature enough to realize that there are things much more important in life than banging my head on that particular brick wall. Just my $0.02 of grandpa ranting. Get off my lawn!

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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This kinda breaks online and also kneecaps some offline apps. Still, if your Quest is just your portal to Virtual Desktop, you'll find this very useful as it removes the worst parts of the Quest as a wireless PCVR headset. Good luck!

Do you know by chance what breaks? For example, would immersed [0] still work, or tethered Steam VR? [0]: https://immersed.com/

Sadly, I'm just a secondary source as someone who uses Linux full-time (and thus can't use Virtual Desktop). I'll ask my friend who did this and get back to you if he has any information.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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How do you define a peripheral? An Oculus Quest is basically a repackaged smart phone.

I mean I don't see why this couldn't apply cart-blanche to all computers. I don't need to sign into MS, Mac to use the computers (though I do for my mac because of corp. policy). It has been getting harder, but fuck, why not use this opportunity to turn this shit around?

As it stands you need not sign into iCloud to use macOS or Microsoft Live to use Windows. Not sure what the law would even do.

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Why not HTC Vive though? Better development, better privacy, more game support.

I just saw the announcement for the new HTC Vive standalone. I'm going to wait until someone figures out a way to run games on the thing, and then I might consider dropping $600 on that setup. It's not a great idea to buy products which require you to hack them.

Unless your an, ahem, hacker. What site is this? Then these kinds of things make you drool at the possibilities.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Facebook keeps asking Congress to make laws. How about this one: Peripherals, including mice, monitors, keyboards, VR headsets or any other device used to process input or output from a computer, may NOT be connected to any cloud service with an account. Any such cloud connections MUST be for software updates only and software updates MUST be capable of permanent opt-out without any loss of usage. I mean I grew up wi…

Docking stations and printers too. Here’s a recent HP printer that requires an account.

https://reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/pwrgb1/buyer_beware_s...

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How do you define a peripheral? An Oculus Quest is basically a repackaged smart phone.

I mean I don't see why this couldn't apply cart-blanche to all computers. I don't need to sign into MS, Mac to use the computers (though I do for my mac because of corp. policy). It has been getting harder, but fuck, why not use this opportunity to turn this shit around?

You do need to sign into MS to use Word, Excel, Outlook, etc.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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How do you define a peripheral? An Oculus Quest is basically a repackaged smart phone.

I mean I don't see why this couldn't apply cart-blanche to all computers. I don't need to sign into MS, Mac to use the computers (though I do for my mac because of corp. policy). It has been getting harder, but fuck, why not use this opportunity to turn this shit around?

> why not use this opportunity to turn this shit around?

Because your proposed legislation would outlaw most IoT devices. This is, in fact, bad.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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> GrapheneOS is compatible with several Google Pixel smartphones. That doesn't bode well for things working all that well. As someone who ran linux on chromebook for two years, then on a macbook for three, i'm a bit burnt out on this sort of thing.

It's like a rite of passage or something to hack and then install your own thing fighting harder than a salmon swimming up stream. There's a lot to be learned in the doing to be sure. It's the full of piss&vinegar stage of life. Eventually, you get tired of the time required to fight it, and just need something to work. Does that mean the man won? Maybe. However, I look at it like I won on finally becoming mature eno…

I'm not sure that enjoyment of the latest tech toys is more important than the fight for freedom, to be honest.
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