Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seems like the same legal body that made these laws would outlaw that activity.
Yeah, but how sustainable is the EU really, in the long term? I’m still convinced it will either dissolve or devolve into a rump organization within my lifetime.
European Parliament approves mass surveillance of private communication
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seems like the same legal body that made these laws would outlaw that activity.
Yeah, but how sustainable is the EU really, in the long term? I’m still convinced it will either dissolve or devolve into a rump organization within my lifetime.
Brexit showed just the enormous depth of high quality glue keeping all remaining countries together.
So I don’t think the EU will be collapsing any time soon, certainly not for rational reasons.
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#33I'm having a hard time understanding how they can stand for internet privacy and legal mass surveillance simultaneously.
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#34I wonder how this meshes with GDPR as this seems like a huge violation of it. Law enforcement being able to dig into messages with a warrant is one thing, but delegating responsibilities to platforms to look for crime is quite another.
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#35Would any email provider protect me from this, get my emails actually delivered and ideally work with my own domain? Not that I see myself switching after 15 years and 6 Gmail accounts but if I am to I'd rather know who I'd use. And no I won't risk setting it up myself and risk missing on some portion of my emails like I've had happen at workplaces before we'd sigh and switch to Google. For Chat tg/signal seem like t…
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#36Do they want everyone to switch en masse to end-to-end encrypted communications? Because this is how you encourage that.
It mentions in the article that even apps like Signal would have to install backdoors that they can use.
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#37Would any email provider protect me from this, get my emails actually delivered and ideally work with my own domain? Not that I see myself switching after 15 years and 6 Gmail accounts but if I am to I'd rather know who I'd use. And no I won't risk setting it up myself and risk missing on some portion of my emails like I've had happen at workplaces before we'd sigh and switch to Google. For Chat tg/signal seem like t…
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#38Do they want everyone to switch en masse to end-to-end encrypted communications? Because this is how you encourage that.
It mentions in the article that even apps like Signal would have to install backdoors that they can use.
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#40>Previously secure end-to-end encrypted messenger services such as Whatsapp or Signal would be forced to install a backdoor. Isn’t Signal FOSS? I don’t know how they’d police that when everyone can just fork it and remove the back door. Also don’t VPNs circumvent this legislation as well? How will they police self-hosted email servers? I know the response to these questions is usually “You’re right, this is what happ…
If the goal is large scale surveillance, it can be combatted fairly effectively as has been shown with e.g. kino.to and other streaming sites which have gone practivally extinct. The same would happen to websites hosting illegal apps.
If the goal is to go after real criminals this is of course useless. But EncroChat [1] has shown that at least large parts of the criminal world don't seem to have great operation security practices.