Instapaper stores only salted SHA-1 hashes of passwords, so those are relatively safe. -- Obligatory statement on NEVER USING SHA-1 HASHES to make passwords "safe". Any normal person can brute force millions of SHA-1 hashes (salted however much you want) per second on a GPU. If the FBI so wanted (although I don't believe they do) I'm sure they could brute force almost every single password in that database. Granted,…
The FBI stole an Instapaper server in an unrelated raid
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Re: The FBI stole an Instapaper server in an unrelated raid
#32I think it may be prudent to begin encrypting all data on disk that can reasonably be encrypted while being able to set up the server remotely so that no one can just snatch your server and get all your data. This could work by encrypting your database in a truecrypt volume that must be mounted by entering the password. Thus, the data is only ever saved on disk in encrypted form, and the key to access the data is not…
Re: The FBI stole an Instapaper server in an unrelated raid
#33Surely there is a legal precedent which provides at least some framework for what can or cannot be seized during a warrant search? This can't be the first time government agents have mistakenly seized property in an otherwise lawful search. Also, while I completely understand Instapaper's unwillingness to pursue this through the courts, that is the way our legal system is structured. If you believe you have been harm…
Re: The FBI stole an Instapaper server in an unrelated raid
#34Re: The FBI stole an Instapaper server in an unrelated raid
#35I'm trying to think of an analogy which can explain why this might be reasonable from the FBIs perspective. Suppose you were using a shared storage space (shared servers, or server farm) with several other dudes. One of them is a drug dealer. One day the police/FBI decide to raid the storage space since the drug dealer has been using it to store illegal drugs. Is it not reasonable to consider this collateral damage (…
if you're looking for a metaphor, think about a self-storage facility ([one of these places](http://www.moversandpackers.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/s...). imagine you're renting one of those units, and somebody renting a unit on the other side of the yard is a drug dealer. the FBI comes in, and in the process of seizing the assets of the drug dealer across the yard, they also seize all the stuff in your storage unit. There is no way that is reasonable.
Re: The FBI stole an Instapaper server in an unrelated raid
#36Instapaper stores only salted SHA-1 hashes of passwords, so those are relatively safe. -- Obligatory statement on NEVER USING SHA-1 HASHES to make passwords "safe". Any normal person can brute force millions of SHA-1 hashes (salted however much you want) per second on a GPU. If the FBI so wanted (although I don't believe they do) I'm sure they could brute force almost every single password in that database. Granted,…
Modern consumer video cards can do billions per second now. You might as well just store them in plaintext instead of using SHA1/MD5 with or without salting. :/
Re: The FBI stole an Instapaper server in an unrelated raid
#37I think it may be prudent to begin encrypting all data on disk that can reasonably be encrypted while being able to set up the server remotely so that no one can just snatch your server and get all your data. This could work by encrypting your database in a truecrypt volume that must be mounted by entering the password. Thus, the data is only ever saved on disk in encrypted form, and the key to access the data is not…
How fast is Truecrypt? How much would this slow down database and file access?
Re: The FBI stole an Instapaper server in an unrelated raid
#38I think it may be prudent to begin encrypting all data on disk that can reasonably be encrypted while being able to set up the server remotely so that no one can just snatch your server and get all your data. This could work by encrypting your database in a truecrypt volume that must be mounted by entering the password. Thus, the data is only ever saved on disk in encrypted form, and the key to access the data is not…
Re: The FBI stole an Instapaper server in an unrelated raid
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. Even if it was shared space, it should be possible to, through software and IT, extract the necessary data and bar it from further operation.
I don't think the IT skill required to reliably extract evidence from an arbitrary hosting operation (of potentially arbitrary complexity) is simply "on tap" for the FBI. If you want to say "tough luck that's just what it costs to collect evidence in 2011", fine, but it's probably not fair to say that the FBI should just naturally have that capability.
Re: The FBI stole an Instapaper server in an unrelated raid
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. Even if it was shared space, it should be possible to, through software and IT, extract the necessary data and bar it from further operation.
I think it's always important to remember that the first order of business in a raid is to preserve evidence against deletion or modification. This means that their first task is to remove the hardware from anybody's hands but theirs. At which point they can peruse the data as they are able. Why did they take an entire rack, instead of a few servers? I can think of a couple of potential reasons. - VM's, which could p…