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Re: SonyPictures.com hacked, personal information and passwords compromised

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And yet, all the media coverage and discussion further encourages this kind of behaviour. When was the last time a website break-in wasn't news?

I'm talking about how it keeps happening to Sony .

11 times in the last 2 months or so. 11, very high-profile cases with tons of customers' and employees' details. And always the same trivial things; SQLi, no encryption/plaintext databases, lack of first-line security like firewalls, etc.

Re: SonyPictures.com hacked, personal information and passwords compromised

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Is there a particular reason people are focused on revenging Sony?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Computer_Entertainment_Ame...

so why isn't there anything done against Apple? Apple's lawyers are on the back of anyone who makes white iPhone cases, jailbreakers, etc.

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Computer_Entertainment_Ame...

so why isn't there anything done against Apple? Apple's lawyers are on the back of anyone who makes white iPhone cases, jailbreakers, etc.

Apple has gone after jailbreakers? Thats news to me. Geohot has hacked (as far as I know) almost every iDevice Apple has put out, but Apple didn't take him to court because of it.

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It is just sad that all these hackers think they're doing everybody a favor by attacking "evil corporations" like Sony. But while they may be right in exposing Sony's lousy security, meanwhile they hurt one million people by releasing their information out into the public in a way that can never be taken back. Unless you think hurting one company you deem bad outweighs hurting a million innocent private citizens, the…

If they didn't release the information: 1) Sony would just accuse them of lying and people (the general public) would just believe Sony over a bunch of anonymous hackers. 2) Change doesn't happen unless people get off their butts. This is a way to motivate that change. I don't necessarily agree with it, but you're talking as if there is no logic behind this other than recklessness.

They did release 50,000 records according to Engadget http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/02/sony-pictures-hacked-by-l...

Re: SonyPictures.com hacked, personal information and passwords compromised

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http://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec/status/76388576832651265 Stay classy

Another imaginary currency. Very bad.

Bitcoin is just another imaginary currency. But now its technofreaks imagining it, what a difference. A real adventure into economics and currencies would be to strive for a society with no currency, where people do things for the lulz. Not for the coins man.

Re: SonyPictures.com hacked, personal information and passwords compromised

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Computer_Entertainment_Ame...

so why isn't there anything done against Apple? Apple's lawyers are on the back of anyone who makes white iPhone cases, jailbreakers, etc.

When did Apple sue iOS jailbreakers? Did it go to court or did the defendants settle?

edit: Nevermind, looks like they haven't actually sued any jailbreakers.

Re: SonyPictures.com hacked, personal information and passwords compromised

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post #14

It is just sad that all these hackers think they're doing everybody a favor by attacking "evil corporations" like Sony. But while they may be right in exposing Sony's lousy security, meanwhile they hurt one million people by releasing their information out into the public in a way that can never be taken back. Unless you think hurting one company you deem bad outweighs hurting a million innocent private citizens, the…

If they didn't release the information: 1) Sony would just accuse them of lying and people (the general public) would just believe Sony over a bunch of anonymous hackers. 2) Change doesn't happen unless people get off their butts. This is a way to motivate that change. I don't necessarily agree with it, but you're talking as if there is no logic behind this other than recklessness.

I'm not saying there's no logic. I'm just saying it's some pretty messed up logic.

Sony has been targeted for several major intrusions lately and I'm certain they have lost a great deal of money because of it.

Now if hackers want to damage Sony, how about finding a way that doesn't also involve millions of regular people in the process.

I got my one and only Sony product (PS3) because I use it for something. Not because I support Sony in every decision they make, and I definitely think they should do something about that joke for security they have going on.

But why should the user be punished and shat on by some idiot hackers just because he/she decided they wanted a cheap system to play games on, for example?

They could do a million things to hurt Sony financially instead of fucking over millions of end users who aren't connected to the company at all. (I'm counting all the affected users of all the latest Sony attacks, in case someone has a problem with the figures.)

Also, I think they chose to release the stolen data out of ill-will towards Sony rather than it being an attempt to point out security flaws. Because if security flaws where the real issue they attack Sony, then they wouldn't release the info to everyone since that seems quite counter intuitive.

Re: SonyPictures.com hacked, personal information and passwords compromised

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The thing that struck me first about this was the fact that it is in impeccable English, yet written as a kid would write. Something smells funny about that. What is to stop a competitor of Sony from trying to take them down under the guise of disenfranchised youth.

Funny, I didn't notice until you mentioned that. It is nicely written, and apostrophe use seems all right. :-)

Not sure if I buy the "as a kid would write" bit, but it is surprising to see this. Maybe the hacker just took 10 mins and proofread his own text?

Re: SonyPictures.com hacked, personal information and passwords compromised

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they didn't release the information: 1) Sony would just accuse them of lying and people (the general public) would just believe Sony over a bunch of anonymous hackers. 2) Change doesn't happen unless people get off their butts. This is a way to motivate that change. I don't necessarily agree with it, but you're talking as if there is no logic behind this other than recklessness.

The public is already predisposed to believing any hacking claims targeted at Sony at the moment. I wouldn't exactly frame their actions as reckless or lacking in logic either. How about malicious? I am particularly put off by this line: "This is disgraceful and insecure: they were asking for it." I get it, they have poor security, as a customer, this makes me really angry. But the general tone there is kind of simil…

> tone there is kind of similar to what you get when people accuse rape victims of being complicit

Not when there are hostile state actors who have presumably been enjoying that access for years without publishing it. These guys just told us about it.

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