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Re: SonyPictures.com hacked, personal information and passwords compromised

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Post by pyre »

Joakim wrote: post #14

It is just sad that all these hackers think they're doing everybody a favor by attacking "evil corporations" like Sony. But while they may be right in exposing Sony's lousy security, meanwhile they hurt one million people by releasing their information out into the public in a way that can never be taken back. Unless you think hurting one company you deem bad outweighs hurting a million innocent private citizens, the…

If they didn't release the information:

1) Sony would just accuse them of lying and people (the general public) would just believe Sony over a bunch of anonymous hackers.

2) Change doesn't happen unless people get off their butts. This is a way to motivate that change.

I don't necessarily agree with it, but you're talking as if there is no logic behind this other than recklessness.

Re: SonyPictures.com hacked, personal information and passwords compromised

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Post by 9999 »

I know someone that briefly worked for a third party company that Sony had outsourced a fairly large project to (building some social networking features into the web based side of PSN). I found it really surprising at the time that Sony had outsourced that sort of thing, but I'm getting the feeling now that it must have been a fairly common practice.

Given the wildly different business sectors that Sony is involved in, it's really not so surprising that their security varies considerably amongst them. Somehow I doubt lulzsec would be anywhere nearly as successful if they were attempting to steal semiconductor manufacturing information from the Japanese offices. Although that might just make it all the more insulting to Sony's customers who just had all of their personal information stolen.

Re: SonyPictures.com hacked, personal information and passwords compromised

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Post by brad22 »

Joakim wrote: post #14

It is just sad that all these hackers think they're doing everybody a favor by attacking "evil corporations" like Sony. But while they may be right in exposing Sony's lousy security, meanwhile they hurt one million people by releasing their information out into the public in a way that can never be taken back. Unless you think hurting one company you deem bad outweighs hurting a million innocent private citizens, the…

an obvious troll is obvious

Re: SonyPictures.com hacked, personal information and passwords compromised

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Post by kevindication »

MediaBehavior wrote: post #11
kevindication wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disagree on absurdity. I'm certain that if you focused enough eyes on any company with as much surface area exposed to the internet you'd poke just as many holes.

>...as many holes. But would you find most storing passwords in plain text? in 2011?

I had to stop a previous employer from doing just that in 2003. It was bad practice then, too. Big companies are just more susceptible to these kinds of short-cuts. Especially shortcuts with no clear benefit except to a lazy programmer.

I remain pessimistic.

Re: SonyPictures.com hacked, personal information and passwords compromised

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Post by Pooter »

tsuraan wrote: post #20
Joakim wrote: post #14

It is just sad that all these hackers think they're doing everybody a favor by attacking "evil corporations" like Sony. But while they may be right in exposing Sony's lousy security, meanwhile they hurt one million people by releasing their information out into the public in a way that can never be taken back. Unless you think hurting one company you deem bad outweighs hurting a million innocent private citizens, the…

Every Sony customer is an inadvertent supporter of Sony's abuses, and most of them don't care about Sony's morality, they just love the products. If hackers make being a Sony customer unpleasant, then they may be able to hurt Sony's bottom line. It seems far more likely to work than an online petition or boycott...

Yeah! Who gives a fuck about people and how this affects them! The important part is the ongoing battle against Sony for the atrocities they commit.

Each and every person who suffers as the result of these kinds of attacks has whatever happens to them coming for not being part of The Cause. They must pay!

Re: SonyPictures.com hacked, personal information and passwords compromised

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Post by kevindication »

raganwald wrote: post #13
kevindication wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disagree on absurdity. I'm certain that if you focused enough eyes on any company with as much surface area exposed to the internet you'd poke just as many holes.

What's worse is that every bit of data we took wasn't encrypted. Sony stored over 1,000,000 passwords of its customers in plaintext, which means it's just a matter of taking it. This is disgraceful and insecure: they were asking for it. I'm not sure that is true for any company with as much surface area. I would be extremely disappointed if it were true of any of Canada's five major banks, for example. Google has bee…

"Any" is probably an exaggeration. I'd cede that and accept "most." We can hope that Google is an exception because of the caliber of employee they hire, since obviously they also have a lot of domain knowledge. But, I think that only means we're quibbling about the embarrassment level of these breaches.

Re: SonyPictures.com hacked, personal information and passwords compromised

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Post by 9999 »

pyre wrote: post #21
Joakim wrote: post #14

It is just sad that all these hackers think they're doing everybody a favor by attacking "evil corporations" like Sony. But while they may be right in exposing Sony's lousy security, meanwhile they hurt one million people by releasing their information out into the public in a way that can never be taken back. Unless you think hurting one company you deem bad outweighs hurting a million innocent private citizens, the…

If they didn't release the information: 1) Sony would just accuse them of lying and people (the general public) would just believe Sony over a bunch of anonymous hackers. 2) Change doesn't happen unless people get off their butts. This is a way to motivate that change. I don't necessarily agree with it, but you're talking as if there is no logic behind this other than recklessness.

The public is already predisposed to believing any hacking claims targeted at Sony at the moment. I wouldn't exactly frame their actions as reckless or lacking in logic either. How about malicious? I am particularly put off by this line:

"This is disgraceful and insecure: they were asking for it."

I get it, they have poor security, as a customer, this makes me really angry. But the general tone there is kind of similar to what you get when people accuse rape victims of being complicit in the rape. "She was askin' for it!"

Re: SonyPictures.com hacked, personal information and passwords compromised

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Post by wbhart »

The thing that struck me first about this was the fact that it is in impeccable English, yet written as a kid would write. Something smells funny about that.

What is to stop a competitor of Sony from trying to take them down under the guise of disenfranchised youth.

Re: SonyPictures.com hacked, personal information and passwords compromised

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Post by ary »

beaumartinez wrote: post #24
ary wrote: post #2

At first it was embarrassing, now it's just absurd.

And yet, all the media coverage and discussion further encourages this kind of behaviour. When was the last time a website break-in wasn't news?

I'm talking about how it keeps happening to Sony.
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