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The psychology behind ‘revenge bedtime procrastination’

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Re: The psychology behind ‘revenge bedtime procrastination’

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Of course, what's actually not good for you is having to work twelve hours a day. Leisure time isn't the problem.

Thank fuck some countries have had workers' revolutions that limit working hours and days - and make employers pay dearly for overtime.

I mean there's workarounds like the gig economy, but for most people things are still pretty good.

Re: The psychology behind ‘revenge bedtime procrastination’

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As a way of breaking this cycle, I've recently been considering going to bed earlier (e.g. 9-10pm), and then getting up at 5-6am, BUT with the proviso I can do whatever I want between 5 and 8, with no pressure to be productive (e.g. binge on Netflix for 3 hours). I just need to convince my wife to do the same :) Has anyone tried something like this?

I love the morning, it’s the best time of day. I naturally tend to wake up quite early and have my whole life. However this is the time when I most prefer to do chores. It feels nice doing them in the morning, where later in the day I tend not to have the energy.

Re: The psychology behind ‘revenge bedtime procrastination’

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I follow a similar pattern, but a major component for me is anhedonia / depression. I don't have anything in my life that is fulfilling or exciting or fun. I delay going to bed, both hoping to suddenly feel that spark of excitement for something, and feeling reluctant to go to bed in this unsatisified state.

Tried stimulants?

I haven't done a long-term trial.

The only things that are legally available here are ritalin and modafinil (only if you have narcolepsy). I tried 5mg of ritalin 2 or 3 times, it made me work and think faster and with more focus, but it also felt jittery and I'm not sure it was all that pleasurable.

So based on that and on worries about causing more long-term damage I haven't tried to take it longer. Maybe I should try combining it with something that's supposed to be fun, but I don't know how I feel about doing this without some kind of a plan. E.g. combining with games that are challenging I would be worried about lowering my frustration tolerance.

Re: The psychology behind ‘revenge bedtime procrastination’

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No mention of how to get out of this unhealthy habit. I'm struggling with this myself. Some of my conclusions so far: * When I am sleep-deprived I am less productive. So I spend more time doing "work". Then I have less time for everything else I want to do (family, cooking, sport). So I take more time away from sleep. And the cycle repeats. Sleep deprivation is self-perpetuating. * What I do at night, when I am exhau…

Quit - different job. Its a management/company culture thing. Burn out, find something healthy. The fact that most wont since they need the money tells us how nasty this is.

Nothing in their comment indicated to me that anyone is making them work too much.

Re: The psychology behind ‘revenge bedtime procrastination’

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As a way of breaking this cycle, I've recently been considering going to bed earlier (e.g. 9-10pm), and then getting up at 5-6am, BUT with the proviso I can do whatever I want between 5 and 8, with no pressure to be productive (e.g. binge on Netflix for 3 hours). I just need to convince my wife to do the same :) Has anyone tried something like this?

I made that switch earlier this year. Huge boost in productivity and happiness.

The tricky part is making sure you don’t pick up the phone before 10am. Too easy to wander over to HN and write about how much this sleep schedule switch helped.

For me mornings are great for deep work (usually) because my mind isn’t full of other people’s crap yet.

Re: The psychology behind ‘revenge bedtime procrastination’

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As a way of breaking this cycle, I've recently been considering going to bed earlier (e.g. 9-10pm), and then getting up at 5-6am, BUT with the proviso I can do whatever I want between 5 and 8, with no pressure to be productive (e.g. binge on Netflix for 3 hours). I just need to convince my wife to do the same :) Has anyone tried something like this?

That sounds good because I think most people are more likely to "waste their time" at night rather than as soon as they get out of bed in the morning. You just don't get up and immediately start eating cake and watching Netflix.

Re: The psychology behind ‘revenge bedtime procrastination’

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I find myself doing this too. My kids put such a large constraint on my free time that between work and family I only have 3 hours or less per day to do everything, so I am tempted to sacrifice sleep to gain a bit more book reading, side project, or video game time.

Why not include your family in your 'me time'?

I always had my children with me when I was doing 'me things'. Including reading, video games, woodworking, hunting, hiking, and even meditation. For reference, I'm a super introverted person, and really need alone time to recharge my batteries.

It's a nice way to instill values while also enjoying them while they're small.

I mean, they will grow up eventually (really fast actually) and won't want to hang out with you at some point, so even if you "can't" do your 'me time' with them, you will have access to it again, eventually.

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