Of course, what's actually not good for you is having to work twelve hours a day. Leisure time isn't the problem.
The psychology behind ‘revenge bedtime procrastination’
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#13I follow a similar pattern, but a major component for me is anhedonia / depression. I don't have anything in my life that is fulfilling or exciting or fun. I delay going to bed, both hoping to suddenly feel that spark of excitement for something, and feeling reluctant to go to bed in this unsatisified state.
Tried stimulants?
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#14Here’s how you fix this. Go to bed early and wake up earlier. I do honestly believe that young adults naturally stay up later though. I think there’s an evolutionary reason for it, basically to keep the nights watch and ward off predators.
I don't see how this fixes it at all?
Are you suggesting they do their own things in the morning instead? They would still be sleep deprived, plus the issue is that they actually would have trouble forcing themselves to go to bed earlier as they procrastinate.
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#15No mention of how to get out of this unhealthy habit. I'm struggling with this myself. Some of my conclusions so far: * When I am sleep-deprived I am less productive. So I spend more time doing "work". Then I have less time for everything else I want to do (family, cooking, sport). So I take more time away from sleep. And the cycle repeats. Sleep deprivation is self-perpetuating. * What I do at night, when I am exhau…
Quit - different job.
Its a management/company culture thing.
Burn out, find something healthy. The fact that most wont since they need the money tells us how nasty this is.
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#16Of course, what's actually not good for you is having to work twelve hours a day. Leisure time isn't the problem.
The BBC has turned quite a spin in the sub-headline:
"Many young Chinese workers prioritise leisure time over sleep after long work days – even though they know it’s unhealthy."
It's clear even from this formulation that what's really been prioritised (and really unhealthy) is the long work day.
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#17I find myself doing this too. My kids put such a large constraint on my free time that between work and family I only have 3 hours or less per day to do everything, so I am tempted to sacrifice sleep to gain a bit more book reading, side project, or video game time.
You will get more time once your children grow up, which will in hindsight happen much faster than you think.
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#18Not that my situation is anywhere near as dire as a worker on the 996 plan in China, but I do a similar tradeoff. During work I also help the kids get through their school day, so my workday gets a bit longer, then after that I have my own schooling in the evening, and then there's no time left. So I steal it from sleep time or else I get nothing at all.
Can't tell you how much I look forward to 1) being done with OMSCS, and 2) the pandemic ending and the kids going back to in-person school. Never going to complain about teacher salaries again (not that I really ever did, but still...)
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#19I always find myself drifting towards night hours. I really wish I could shift my schedule by around 4 hours, starting and ending my day later.
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#20It’s interesting the use of the aggressive language “revenge“ And “retaliatory” which seems to have a negative charge. I wonder if it is due to the culture of China, its communist leaning, or something deeper that looks at personal leisure time as a bad thing.
Considering that these are English language words, I don't think a linguistic analysis is going to give you insight into Chinese culture. The exact choice of words used in translation is largely going to be a reflection of the English language.
Also, what's the equivalent in other languages? In English, wouldn't we say 'self-sabotage'?