Live data from Hacker News

Governments Worldwide Consider Ditching Daylight Saving Time

scientificamerican.com

31–40 of 282 posts

Re: Governments Worldwide Consider Ditching Daylight Saving Time

#31
post #16

This article has a very city-centric view. Rural communities, and farming very much prefer having DST. Every time removing DST has been postulated in the UK, it is the rural areas that object the most.

No we don't. Farming gets done in the dark no matter what in the winter. It's a pain to adjust to banking hour, machine shop hours, etc. Just set it and leave it.

Re: Governments Worldwide Consider Ditching Daylight Saving Time

#32
post #12

Social issues aside, the software perspective of keeping up with DST is very costly. Every time any government entity anywhere on Earth changes its mind about what zone they're in and when, the IANA needs to reissue the TZDB. Then every OS and platform vendor needs to patch up to a new TZDB. Just for laughs, Java seems to have its own TZDB so in general your OS and application layer might disagree about zones. This i…

The George W Bush time change was the epitome of this, for me. Oh yeah, I’m updating TZ files because W CARES ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING!!!

Re: Governments Worldwide Consider Ditching Daylight Saving Time

#33
post #13

This is so not a thing to me. I never ever realise we chabged until someone tells me and im like "oh ok". People who complain about it are a bit "Snowflake Inc." to me.. sorry.

The unpopularity of this comment shows the type of snowflakes populating HN

Re: Governments Worldwide Consider Ditching Daylight Saving Time

#34
post #12

Social issues aside, the software perspective of keeping up with DST is very costly. Every time any government entity anywhere on Earth changes its mind about what zone they're in and when, the IANA needs to reissue the TZDB. Then every OS and platform vendor needs to patch up to a new TZDB. Just for laughs, Java seems to have its own TZDB so in general your OS and application layer might disagree about zones. This i…

> seems Fiji is rejiggering their dates only a month away

If I recall, Egypt's DST change several years ago was announced so close to the changeover that IANA was updated after it happened. It's possible there is even an instance where the DST change was enacted retroactively.

Re: Governments Worldwide Consider Ditching Daylight Saving Time

#36
post #22
post #16

This article has a very city-centric view. Rural communities, and farming very much prefer having DST. Every time removing DST has been postulated in the UK, it is the rural areas that object the most.

They can decide to start waking up an hour earlier or later without forcing everyone else to change their clocks.

Also don't need to have clocks at all, which was an industrial-age invention. The concept of standardized time and hour-long timezones dates from the mid-1800s, and was a construct of the railways (which needed to publish schedules that'd be valid across long distances). Before then each village or region had its own time.

https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/invention-...

Re: Governments Worldwide Consider Ditching Daylight Saving Time

#38

I don't know how someone ever could think this is a good idea and also got so many governments to implement this. Whoever is behind it, he or she is a genius of evil. Let's ditch this nonsense now.

Every time it happens I imagine Nigel Tufnel was worldwide emperor at some point and just said, "Well, it's one later, isn't it?" And everybody just said, "Huh".

And here we are.

Re: Governments Worldwide Consider Ditching Daylight Saving Time

#39
post #14

Good! Matt Walker has a very interesting Ted talk on sleep and also mentions the negative affects that DST has on society: https://www.ted.com/talks/matt_walker_sleep_is_your_superpow...

Note that Matt Walker has fallen from grace, at least on HN. His book "Why we sleep" used to be widely recommended around here, but there appear to be very serious scientific shortcomings affecting some of the information he presents.

See e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21546850

That is not to say he's wrong on every count, but take what he says with a huge grain of "might have been invented/fudged and then cited from and by himself" salt.

Re: Governments Worldwide Consider Ditching Daylight Saving Time

#40

Having young kids, I'd love to see the changing of the clocks go the way of the dinosaurs. I don't care which way, just pick one and stick with it.

I non-ironically refer to it as “we hate parents” day. Since the benefits are imaginary it seems like an easy win relative to the costs.
Post reply on HN