James Gosling: Java, JVM, Emacs, and Computing History [video]

Post by gen220 » Sat, Sep 26, 2020, 8:02 PM UTC

lhoff wrote: post #3

jgalt212 wrote: post #2

clearly the talk show format of 10 minutes with a guest with a few commercials interspersed in is very far from ideal, but just as far from ideal is 1h51m with a guest. Has someone posted a shorted edited version of this yet?

I listend to the interview as a podcast. It could have gone on for another hour if you ask me. I really like the long form interviews. It allows the guest to not just make there point but to tell the story how they came to that conclusion. That way its easier, at least for me, to internalise that knowledge. There is a podcast run by the german newspaper "Die Zeit" [1] where the concept is that the interview goes on u…

Post by pcestrada » Sat, Sep 26, 2020, 8:46 PM UTC

pmcollins wrote: post #21

teddyh wrote: post #5

Richard Stallman on James Gosling: “[…] a friend of mine told me that because of his work in early development of Gosling Emacs, he had permission from Gosling in a message he had been sent to distribute his version of that. Gosling originally had set up his Emacs and distributed it free and gotten many people to help develop it, under the expectation based on Gosling’s own words in his own manual that he was going t…

James Gosling has contributed more to humanity than the overwhelming majority of people who have ever lived. I think he deserves better than this narrow, one-sided libel.

Post by watwut » Sat, Sep 26, 2020, 8:50 PM UTC

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>Is the host going to a funeral after recording the podcast with no time to change? I've seen your comment go from heavily downvoted (I didn't downvote it) -- to upvoted. To me, your comment seems mean-spirited and detracts from anything else positive that can be said about the actual content of the interview. Personally, it didn't occur to me to be bothered by the business suit. For others that agree with gp's funer…

Not the suit - the tie. I was always taught it was disrespectful to wear a black tie because it's reserved for people grieving. Different communities are different though I guess. And maybe he's grieving in some regard, I suppose.

Post by moonchild » Sat, Sep 26, 2020, 9:04 PM UTC

fishmaster wrote: post #24

pmcollins wrote: post #21

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James Gosling has contributed more to humanity than the overwhelming majority of people who have ever lived. I think he deserves better than this narrow, one-sided libel.

Really? By inventing Java?

Post by teddyh » Sat, Sep 26, 2020, 9:33 PM UTC

homarp wrote: post #31

teddyh wrote: post #5

Richard Stallman on James Gosling: “[…] a friend of mine told me that because of his work in early development of Gosling Emacs, he had permission from Gosling in a message he had been sent to distribute his version of that. Gosling originally had set up his Emacs and distributed it free and gotten many people to help develop it, under the expectation based on Gosling’s own words in his own manual that he was going t…

you can read the threads on usenet at that time: March 20, 1985 is the launch of GNU emacs - first "clean" version of emacs is July 15, 1985 Fen Labalme message: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/net.emacs/Vxp_Is2A5Cs/l6AmKi... Unipress message about the "portions of the GNU Emacs program are most definitely not public domain" https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/net.emacs/ZmwEvkr9Jfs/... RMS explaining what code he u…