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Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US antitrust investigation

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Re: Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US antitrust investigation

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Just as a reminder, their phone "independent repair program" has you signing rights to your business away (you are forced to let apple audit you at any time, you have to share personal client data on all of your clients with apple. All of this not limited to Apple repair part of your business) for the right to: - remove battery / screen from client device - send battery / screen to Apple with all clients personal inf…

This is Apple trying to avoid real Right to Repair legislation by taking actions that look like they support independent repair.

Consider taking a moment to donate to https://repair.org/ - we're pushing to get Right to Repair laws passed in state legislatures across the US.

Re: Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US antitrust investigation

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post #2

Just as a reminder, their phone "independent repair program" has you signing rights to your business away (you are forced to let apple audit you at any time, you have to share personal client data on all of your clients with apple. All of this not limited to Apple repair part of your business) for the right to: - remove battery / screen from client device - send battery / screen to Apple with all clients personal inf…

> you are forced to let apple audit you at any time, you have to share personal client data on all of your clients with apple I assume they want to be able to confirm the shops aren't also buying counterfeit Chinese components on the side and swapping them in for the genuine ones. I also assume they want the repair information to feed into their tracking of the history of the device, as it can affect warranty, AppleC…

Once you buy the device why the hell should Apple prevent someone from putting a counterfeit battery/screen/whatever inside of it? Sure, people might be defrauding AppleCare, but that's their problem - there's no reasonable justification for why they should be able to regulate who fixes their devices.

Re: Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US antitrust investigation

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This is Apple trying to do the least that allows them to get away from more regulation.

The goal should be self repair. I want the manuals and parts so I can make my own repair.

Like Thinkpads, yeah.

Re: Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US antitrust investigation

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This is Apple trying to do the least that allows them to get away from more regulation.

The goal should be self repair. I want the manuals and parts so I can make my own repair.

Exactly right. I can (and do) repair my own car. Not so long ago you it was a normal thing that you could build your own TV...

https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Catalogs/Allied-Catalo...

Re: Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US antitrust investigation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you are forced to let apple audit you at any time, you have to share personal client data on all of your clients with apple I assume they want to be able to confirm the shops aren't also buying counterfeit Chinese components on the side and swapping them in for the genuine ones. I also assume they want the repair information to feed into their tracking of the history of the device, as it can affect warranty, AppleC…

Once you buy the device why the hell should Apple prevent someone from putting a counterfeit battery/screen/whatever inside of it? Sure, people might be defrauding AppleCare, but that's their problem - there's no reasonable justification for why they should be able to regulate who fixes their devices.

There's an argument here that the customer could end up the victim if they pay for a genuine part and end up with a knockoff. However, that should be something resolvable after-the-fact— if a device shows up at a Genius Bar with a counterfeit battery, ask the user where it came from, engage lawyers.

Re: Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US antitrust investigation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you are forced to let apple audit you at any time, you have to share personal client data on all of your clients with apple I assume they want to be able to confirm the shops aren't also buying counterfeit Chinese components on the side and swapping them in for the genuine ones. I also assume they want the repair information to feed into their tracking of the history of the device, as it can affect warranty, AppleC…

Once you buy the device why the hell should Apple prevent someone from putting a counterfeit battery/screen/whatever inside of it? Sure, people might be defrauding AppleCare, but that's their problem - there's no reasonable justification for why they should be able to regulate who fixes their devices.

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Re: Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US antitrust investigation

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Just as a reminder, their phone "independent repair program" has you signing rights to your business away (you are forced to let apple audit you at any time, you have to share personal client data on all of your clients with apple. All of this not limited to Apple repair part of your business) for the right to: - remove battery / screen from client device - send battery / screen to Apple with all clients personal inf…

I thought specifically one benefit of an IRP was that they had official Apple inventory on hand like screens and batteries without resorting to grey market stripped/scavenged parts. Is that not the case?

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Re: Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US antitrust investigation

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It will cost you ~$450 in a real independent shop. Apples only option for repairing logic boards was always swapping whole thing for $850-1600 or up-sell to a new device.

This is my experience too. An unexpected failure on my 2013 mba and Apple suggested new logic boards with no guarantee of fix the problem & recommended a new mba. I literally went across the road and a flat fee of $500 got me going again. He desoldered a few components and replaced with parts taken from a spare mba mobo. Couldn't be happier.

I was a 2015 MBP owner for many years and suffered through being stuck on 8GB of RAM the whole time because Apple refuses to swap logic boards up to different specs than the original SKU.

I only realised later on that the indie shop near me would have been willing to do that upgrade, or perhaps swapped my machine over to a 16GB one they had traded in with a smashed screen.

Re: Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US antitrust investigation

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Reading the comments below, Apple is damned it they do and damned if they don’t.

That is the only correct state of affairs for corporations (and governments) as big and powerful as Apple. Constant criticism no matter what they do. It's the only way to hold them even remotely accountable.

Re: Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US antitrust investigation

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Just as a reminder, their phone "independent repair program" has you signing rights to your business away (you are forced to let apple audit you at any time, you have to share personal client data on all of your clients with apple. All of this not limited to Apple repair part of your business) for the right to: - remove battery / screen from client device - send battery / screen to Apple with all clients personal inf…

You also have to ship the part being replaced before you get a new one. And they have to receive it.

Louis Rossmann has a ton of videos of this program originally.

totally bunk stuff they're doing. "Look, we're complying".

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