Does anyone have more experience with Windows on IoT devices in general? I'm curious about this - it seems like it could be a real game changer in general for IoT. But if it is already available and not actually doing much game changing, I'd be curious to know why.
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#32I wonder how well this runs in terms of CPU, i have a Macbook Pro and i don't hear the fans very often. Except when i run Windows 10, the fans frequently blast at the maximum level...
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The translation feature that minces x86 to ARM is done. x64 is still in the works.
How is the performance?
Certainly performance wise - better than expected, but gets down to what DX level the game is using, Rpi's not known for much graphics grunt. Though these two examples running well on the rpi4 with windows 10, better than you'd expect and kinda impressive.
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My experience in general with windows is that you need GUIs everywhere to configure stuff, whereas linux is text config first. I just deployed 20 pi's at work for a project and remote management on raspbian is fantastic. My BOM for the project is $300 and the previous system's BOM was $3k. Love raspbian. The other piece is that there are 10 years of raspbian questions and answers on the internet. You have a problem,…
Will it take more time to setup and configure the Pi's than with the $3k system? If not, great! If so, then unless money for a hardware budget is the primary constraint, your time has to factor into the price as well.
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Sure. It mostly isn't a first class customer, however. We may never have "The Year of The Linux Desktop" because of this, but command line configuration in Linux is the first class use case.
I don't agree with the comment you responded to but all server tools for Windows are configured via Powershell, and the GUIs just use the PowerShell Apis. They started migration back in server 2008 or 8r2 to support Headless/Azure. The GUI is literally a second class citizen in Windows Server these days.
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#37Does anyone have more experience with Windows on IoT devices in general? I'm curious about this - it seems like it could be a real game changer in general for IoT. But if it is already available and not actually doing much game changing, I'd be curious to know why.
He was a very capable C# programmer, I think this was the reason for picking it. But over the course of the project he became really bitter and his opinion dropped considerably. Apparently many things that are super easy to do on raspbian were impossible or super hard on Windows IoT. Not regular computing stuff, but integrating with hardware. GPIO, I2C, that kind of stuff.. The kind of stuff that's Bread & Butter for IoT in other words ;)
I can't validate this as I've never really used it myself other than booting it once. But I valued his opinion highly.
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#38Does anyone have more experience with Windows on IoT devices in general? I'm curious about this - it seems like it could be a real game changer in general for IoT. But if it is already available and not actually doing much game changing, I'd be curious to know why.
> it seems like it could be a real game changer in general for IoT. Could you explain why Windows could make things better? As I get more IOT things I have gone more and more basic and had great success. I’m not suggesting that flashing ESP32 chips is the way forward for everyone, but it certainly has its merits. If the rough edges could be removed (imperfect flash software, the need for multiple guides, understandin…
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How is the performance?
Half-life - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM7h1Wv2mCY GTA Vice City - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4MUV_9ODS8 Certainly performance wise - better than expected, but gets down to what DX level the game is using, Rpi's not known for much graphics grunt. Though these two examples running well on the rpi4 with windows 10, better than you'd expect and kinda impressive.
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#40I wonder how well this runs in terms of CPU, i have a Macbook Pro and i don't hear the fans very often. Except when i run Windows 10, the fans frequently blast at the maximum level...
Bootcamp is intentionally gimped by Apple. If your Mac has an GPU and an integrated GPU, OSX can switch between them while in use to lower power or heat when no acceleration is needed. Windows, however, will only ever see the GPU, blasting it on full power decreasing battery life and making the computer hot. The windows drivers for the trackpad are really, really bad. The fan control in Windows seem off the charts. S…