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Disclosure: I work for VMware, a direct competitor in this space. Double disclosure: I am working on a Knative book. Triple disclosure: I am overly prone to pre-emptive disclosures.
[0] https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2020/04/30/serverless-app...
Existing tools such as oc are more operations-focused and require a deep understanding of Kubernetes and OpenShift concepts oc and kubectl commands are interchangable for the most part. This will lock you down to openshift.
Check the SHAs. They're actually the same binary. :D On a properly installed system with the `openshift-clients` or `atomic-openshift-utils` rpms installed, `oc` and `kubectl` will have the same SHAs.
How popular is OpenShift? Seems cool but have never heard of anyone actually using it.
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I have thought a lot about this - I have and do work with a ton of apps across number of clients. The stated benefits of K8s/OpenShift are negated by the complexity that it brings for most of those apps - especially when they don't need or use any of the sophisticated features of K8S. If your central IT knows anything about Automation / DevOps you should not be wrangling time with them at all. It is easy peasy to set…
Your experience is rather unlike mine — especially the belief that central IT departments are advanced devops practitioners. Similarly, you're talking about a significant amount of work maintaining bespoke infrastructure duplicating what systems like Kubernetes, OpenShift, Nomad, etc. do but taking on the responsibility for integrating and supporting all of those disparate parts yourself, not to mention getting the p…
Is Openshift an extremely wellfunded solution seeking a problem?
It's a well-funded solution to a well-funded problem. Producing platforms for enterprise customers is truly, genuinely difficult. There is enormous variation and complexity between and within customers, which cannot be dismissed easily. Disclosure: I work for VMware, a direct competitor in this space.
If yes, is there a way to certify an operator on Vmware 7?
Is Openshift an extremely wellfunded solution seeking a problem?
It's a well-funded solution to a well-funded problem. Producing platforms for enterprise customers is truly, genuinely difficult. There is enormous variation and complexity between and within customers, which cannot be dismissed easily. Disclosure: I work for VMware, a direct competitor in this space.
If you're confused about what OpenShift is, we have coloring books and O'Reilly Books [0][1][2][3][4][5]. :D [0] https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fedoradesign/coloringbook-... [1] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/_atta... [2] https://www.openshift.com/resources/ebooks/openshift-for-dev... [3] https://www.openshift.com/learn/resources/ebooks [4] https://www.openshift.com/resources/ebooks/deployi…
Also potentially of interest to HN folks, Red Hat announced that their OpenShift Serverless product is generally available[0]. It's a Knative-based offering. Disclosure: I work for VMware, a direct competitor in this space. Double disclosure: I am working on a Knative book. Triple disclosure: I am overly prone to pre-emptive disclosures. [0] https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2020/04/30/serverless-app...
Your comment made my day, thank you :-)
Knative is super cool. I'm really glad to see it maturing so well into vendor offerings. Best of luck on your book!
Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have thought a lot about this - I have and do work with a ton of apps across number of clients. The stated benefits of K8s/OpenShift are negated by the complexity that it brings for most of those apps - especially when they don't need or use any of the sophisticated features of K8S. If your central IT knows anything about Automation / DevOps you should not be wrangling time with them at all. It is easy peasy to set…
Your experience is rather unlike mine — especially the belief that central IT departments are advanced devops practitioners. Similarly, you're talking about a significant amount of work maintaining bespoke infrastructure duplicating what systems like Kubernetes, OpenShift, Nomad, etc. do but taking on the responsibility for integrating and supporting all of those disparate parts yourself, not to mention getting the p…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a well-funded solution to a well-funded problem. Producing platforms for enterprise customers is truly, genuinely difficult. There is enormous variation and complexity between and within customers, which cannot be dismissed easily. Disclosure: I work for VMware, a direct competitor in this space.
Im not knowledgable enough in this area, but I don't understand the value in using Openshift's custom setup over established cloud providers setups like AWS or GCP or Azure or even VMWare(who has been in the vm biz wayyy longer than all of these players.)
OpenShift also adds a lot of rich functionality above the standards K8s setup. It's essentially a bunch of operators that work really well together and add PaaS functionality onto K8s.