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#32I've commented in the past about Zoom's close ties with China (beyond its engineering staff) but I didn't have sources, so I conceded and redacted some specifics: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22738420 WSJ just wrote an article interviewing the CEO and other security experts on this topic. Some interesting excerpts: > In the U.S., 27 attorney general’s offices have raised questions about privacy issues, Zoom s…
Won't happen until mainstream media and average Americans are onboard. Unfortunately, I don't see this happening anytime soon.
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#33I've commented in the past about Zoom's close ties with China (beyond its engineering staff) but I didn't have sources, so I conceded and redacted some specifics: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22738420 WSJ just wrote an article interviewing the CEO and other security experts on this topic. Some interesting excerpts: > In the U.S., 27 attorney general’s offices have raised questions about privacy issues, Zoom s…
>> Personal opinion: I think we should all boycott Zoom until there is a guarantee
There can be no guarantee with a proprietary software. Just switch to free software...
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#34That's only http traffic to the website, not people connecting via the app or via phone call . Most people use only the app or a phone call , for example to join a conference call hosted by someone else. Beyond business people on company-hosted calls, think students taking remote classes, grandmas connecting with their whole families, friends joining virtual happy hours, people playing social games, and so on. Worldw…
Are you proposing that the majority of users had their IT department remotely install the zoom application? I'd imagine there's a significant amount of people who downloaded the application from their website. Additionally calendar invites often have a link to the zoom site, which then launches the app. So someone who is connecting via the app would still hit the website.
> I'd imagine there's a significant amount of people who downloaded the application from their website.
Not on iOS or Android devices (phones, tablets, Chromebooks, etc).
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Virtue signaling does nothing. Build something.
Informing others and providing an explanation for why people should be discouraged from using a malicious tool is not virtue signaling. Trying to discourage people from disseminating this information under the auspices of “virtue signaling” is unhelpful. Some people build technology, some people research and critique it. Would you tell researchers who demonstrate critical vulnerabilities in technology that they shoul…
Moreover, often there is something better, people just do not know about it.
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#36I've commented in the past about Zoom's close ties with China (beyond its engineering staff) but I didn't have sources, so I conceded and redacted some specifics: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22738420 WSJ just wrote an article interviewing the CEO and other security experts on this topic. Some interesting excerpts: > In the U.S., 27 attorney general’s offices have raised questions about privacy issues, Zoom s…
The links between Zoom and the Ministry of State Security (Chinese CIA) and the PLA are pretty profound. See this post I put together here: https://blog.12security.com/zoom-and-some-china-stuff/ In particular the company Bizconf, a Zoom sister company, is led by an executive from the Harbin Institute of Technology. Probably the most prestigious university in China (not well known here though) and the only one to be f…
Thanks for writing the blog post. It was a great read.
You wrote "organs of executed prisons for transplant / sale, then slowly morphed into an extremely lucrative industry generating HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS". China has a $14 trillion dollar economy, so surely HUNDREDS of billions is not correct?
Also do you have a citation for the Mao quote. I would like to see the screenshot and/or the full canonical English translation. I am very interested in learning more.
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#37I've commented in the past about Zoom's close ties with China (beyond its engineering staff) but I didn't have sources, so I conceded and redacted some specifics: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22738420 WSJ just wrote an article interviewing the CEO and other security experts on this topic. Some interesting excerpts: > In the U.S., 27 attorney general’s offices have raised questions about privacy issues, Zoom s…
>> Personal opinion: I think we should all boycott Zoom until there is a guarantee There can be no guarantee with a proprietary software. Just switch to free software...
Amen.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Virtue signaling does nothing. Build something.
Informing others and providing an explanation for why people should be discouraged from using a malicious tool is not virtue signaling. Trying to discourage people from disseminating this information under the auspices of “virtue signaling” is unhelpful. Some people build technology, some people research and critique it. Would you tell researchers who demonstrate critical vulnerabilities in technology that they shoul…
It’s odd. I wouldn’t tell security researchers to build something better.
Yet on these high-level comments I have a reaction to tell to build rather than critique.
It must be that the OP faults a company that’s providing tremendous value to society. It’s not without its faults, but to focus on that seem petty? Tone death?
The more I think about your retort of the security the more I think it’s a false comparison. The good ones, demonstrate exactly what the problem is and sometimes even provide a solution.
Here the solution is to use software that has more friction, that robs the grandmas of the world of connection and waste peoples time fixing technology.
So with that I stand by my original comment of don’t criticize, build.
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The links between Zoom and the Ministry of State Security (Chinese CIA) and the PLA are pretty profound. See this post I put together here: https://blog.12security.com/zoom-and-some-china-stuff/ In particular the company Bizconf, a Zoom sister company, is led by an executive from the Harbin Institute of Technology. Probably the most prestigious university in China (not well known here though) and the only one to be f…
Thanks for writing the blog post. It was a great read. You wrote "organs of executed prisons for transplant / sale, then slowly morphed into an extremely lucrative industry generating HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS". China has a $14 trillion dollar economy, so surely HUNDREDS of billions is not correct? Also do you have a citation for the Mao quote. I would like to see the screenshot and/or the full canonical English translati…
Please look into this app and the screenshots the developer has posted: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/bizvideo-ec/id1409523106
Organs per individual go for $2,000,000 if a full ECMO harvest can be done.
That is quite a bit of money, but illegal medical experimentation, as documented by the book "ScienceMart", generates an equivalent amount. Obviously the experimentees might not wind up completely dead like the organ transplant victims though.
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> I know more than a few elementary school teachers who are now hosting zoom classes with 15+ 5 year olds on a call. Given the ease of setup of Zoom which defaulted to a machine-guessable URL which displayed email and other information about participants, this is one reason Zoom is rightly being scrutinized and criticized for poor security.
> Zoom which defaulted to a machine-guessable URL Was there any rational for them doing this?
> Was there any rational for them doing this?
Conference ids are numbers for easier dial-in?