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Re: Secret’s founder returns with anti-loneliness app Ikaria

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Post by donatj »

mjevans wrote: post #11

The root cause of this is pretty much entirely greed. Greed in the form of housing policies where that is used as a tool for investment, rather than an investment in the community. Greed in the form of a missing integration in to society and support for all who are in it to at least a basic level of guarantee. (Popular example, Star Trek utopia) Greed in the form of profits being squeezed upward rather than shared as…

I’m guessing you’ve never actually been lonely. I am not lonely because of greed.

I am lonely because my friends have all married and moved away to start families.

I am lonely because I have always been socially awkward and being in my mid 30s with less time and energy than ever the prospect of trying to make new friends is a terrifying maze. I go to meetups and other social events and put myself out ther but connecting with people I don’t already know on anything more than a superficial level has proven impossible.

I am not lonely because of greed.

Re: Secret’s founder returns with anti-loneliness app Ikaria

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Post by dannyw »

paul7986 wrote: post #22

Solution to loniliness on the internet is be decent looking, hot or the vision of what ppl want (aka the beauty standards we're programmed to desire). Those who fit that mold probably aren't the target audience for this app. Overall the Internet and the dating/hook up apps I believe are one of the problems to the loneliness epedemic Ive read about (all or many of us are too judgy online). People being immediately jud…

I have made close friendships from people on IRC without ever knowing who they look like.

Sure, that’s what tinder is, but you don’t have to use tinder.

Re: Secret’s founder returns with anti-loneliness app Ikaria

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Post by fxtentacle »

charliemil4 wrote: post #28
Alex3917 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think that catching lightning in a bottle still matters as much as it did in 2004 - 2013ish, or do you think there's an argument to be made that we're now in a post-lightning-in-a-bottle era?

Asking the question implies you have an answer ... I’d love to know what you see

Not the poster, but I keep getting snail mail advertisements by banks and VCs that want to invest in my next company, despite me not having done a single exit yet.

My impression is that nowadays, there are more VCs than founders, so they will invest in pretty much anything.

Re: Secret’s founder returns with anti-loneliness app Ikaria

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Post by antupis »

trevyn wrote: post #21
apatters wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your comment (along with statements in the article) presumes that tech is the root cause of these problems but in my opinion this assumption is faulty. Concurrent to the rise in loneliness, depression, anxiety etc. we have experienced a rise in geographical mobility, single parent households, and the divorce rate. Which means that for many, the traditional social networks people relied on for support during hard time…

> the real root causes of our growing mental illness epidemic are too difficult to face When this form of issue arises, it seems to be a recurring human pattern to attempt all of the possible alternatives before facing the root causes directly. It sounds like you're proposing that the actual root causes include a move away from families and geographically proximate friends. I'm curious to hear more -- if you have a d…

Labor mobility is actually declining https://equitablegrowth.org/declining-u-s-labor-mobility-is-...

Re: Secret’s founder returns with anti-loneliness app Ikaria

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Post by rolltiide »

donatj wrote: post #31
mjevans wrote: post #11

The root cause of this is pretty much entirely greed. Greed in the form of housing policies where that is used as a tool for investment, rather than an investment in the community. Greed in the form of a missing integration in to society and support for all who are in it to at least a basic level of guarantee. (Popular example, Star Trek utopia) Greed in the form of profits being squeezed upward rather than shared as…

I’m guessing you’ve never actually been lonely. I am not lonely because of greed. I am lonely because my friends have all married and moved away to start families. I am lonely because I have always been socially awkward and being in my mid 30s with less time and energy than ever the prospect of trying to make new friends is a terrifying maze. I go to meetups and other social events and put myself out ther but connect…

mid 30s you say, ha then yes I will become lonely because of greed

Re: Secret’s founder returns with anti-loneliness app Ikaria

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Post by watwut »

apatters wrote: post #8
hellotomyrars wrote: post #4

Incredibly vague statements parroting known talking points with 0 substance to show for it. I hate to be cynical but all this `tech to fix the social problems created by tech` really brings out the cynic in me. Realistically I know that we do need new solutions but the solution to a drinking problem isn't to deliver better, more mindful alcohol. Edit: To the comments below, I am not asserting that tech has actually c…

Your comment (along with statements in the article) presumes that tech is the root cause of these problems but in my opinion this assumption is faulty. Concurrent to the rise in loneliness, depression, anxiety etc. we have experienced a rise in geographical mobility, single parent households, and the divorce rate. Which means that for many, the traditional social networks people relied on for support during hard time…

Divorce rates are going down and went down for years.

Re: Secret’s founder returns with anti-loneliness app Ikaria

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Post by econcon »

donatj wrote: post #31
mjevans wrote: post #11

The root cause of this is pretty much entirely greed. Greed in the form of housing policies where that is used as a tool for investment, rather than an investment in the community. Greed in the form of a missing integration in to society and support for all who are in it to at least a basic level of guarantee. (Popular example, Star Trek utopia) Greed in the form of profits being squeezed upward rather than shared as…

I’m guessing you’ve never actually been lonely. I am not lonely because of greed. I am lonely because my friends have all married and moved away to start families. I am lonely because I have always been socially awkward and being in my mid 30s with less time and energy than ever the prospect of trying to make new friends is a terrifying maze. I go to meetups and other social events and put myself out ther but connect…

>I am lonely because my friends have all married and moved away to start families.

Why don't you have a family and kids?

Re: Secret’s founder returns with anti-loneliness app Ikaria

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Post by fxtentacle »

econcon wrote: post #26

Loneliness is because people have convinced themselves that the cost of being with someone is bigger than the reward of being with someone. The immediate cost of being alone is going down. We need to understand, no matter how much a person has read or introspected their behaviour or are kind at their heart - no one will every be able to live up to the expectations of millions of people on internet. This is why relati…

There is also good relationship advice on the internet, but it probably won't be on hate-fueled platforms like Reddit or Facebook.

And mainly, it is:

- talk to people, both guys and girls

- always stay curious to learn or try something new

- always discourage comparing people. Nobody else can know all of your strength. And you will never know all the good points about the person you're judging.

#1 will make you easy to be around #2 will make you interesting #3 will make you take the time to really get to know people

Together that should do to find someone nice.

But let's also talk about the other direction. Most local guys will see advertisements and hope for a nice and pretty girl. And compared with TV ads, most of the local girls will fall short. I mean even the model herself will look worse than her photoshopped images.

So why should those guys put in full effort if there's no truly satisfying girl available locally?

Re: Secret’s founder returns with anti-loneliness app Ikaria

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Post by apatters »

watwut wrote: post #36
apatters wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your comment (along with statements in the article) presumes that tech is the root cause of these problems but in my opinion this assumption is faulty. Concurrent to the rise in loneliness, depression, anxiety etc. we have experienced a rise in geographical mobility, single parent households, and the divorce rate. Which means that for many, the traditional social networks people relied on for support during hard time…

Divorce rates are going down and went down for years.

Total numbers of divorces have trended down modestly in recent years, but as a percentage of marriages they are still at historic highs. Prior to the 1970s only a low single digit percentage of marriages ended in divorce. It then rose steadily and is something like 50% now.

The marriage rate has also declined since the 1970s. Fewer marriages and more divorces have compounded to result in far fewer families per population (at least as families have conventionally been defined) than just two generations ago.

Re: Secret’s founder returns with anti-loneliness app Ikaria

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Post by TekMol »

econcon wrote: post #26

Loneliness is because people have convinced themselves that the cost of being with someone is bigger than the reward of being with someone. The immediate cost of being alone is going down. We need to understand, no matter how much a person has read or introspected their behaviour or are kind at their heart - no one will every be able to live up to the expectations of millions of people on internet. This is why relati…

May I ask where you are from?

What confuses me about your post: Why do the girls of your town data guys from abroad but the guys do not date girls from abroad?

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