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Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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Microsoft doing shady stuff again. It's really a shame. The engineering that the teams at Microsoft put to the kernel and the actual operating system at large is amazing. But then some Product Management division decides to shove this shit down people's throat and, for me at least, ruins all the fun of what would is otherwise an amazing piece of an operating system. I paid for an operating system, just let me use the…

> Microsoft doing shady stuff again. Seems anything but shady? On the start menu in full sight and just explicitly suggesting their browser over Firefox. Doesn't even claim anything about either browser, just suggests theirs! Seems as honest and upfront as any advertising could be? 'Try our band of coffee' effectively.

The wording "still using Firefox?" does suggest subtly that Firefox is outdated or passé... so no, their wording is problematic, as also is the placement of the ad. It is also unnecessary given Firefox's rather small market share and the fact that Edge will be bundled with Windows which means that almost everyone who doesn't use Chrome will likely use Edge.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Microsoft doing shady stuff again. Seems anything but shady? On the start menu in full sight and just explicitly suggesting their browser over Firefox. Doesn't even claim anything about either browser, just suggests theirs! Seems as honest and upfront as any advertising could be? 'Try our band of coffee' effectively.

It's advertising. Smack bang in the middle of the OS you paid hundreds for.

I get people don't want it. But it's the least 'shady' advertising I've seen in years!

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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One of the many reasons why I hate Windows 10. Just get out of my way and let me use my computer how I want. I'd put on my "smug Linux user" hat but to be honest my distro of choice (Ubuntu) has Amazon search integrated by default. The only saving grace is that it can be easily, completely, and permanently removed with just a couple of commands. Seriously considering a Macbook for my next computer at this point.

Why is Ubuntu your distro of choice then? No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater by buying into Apple's walled garden.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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One of the many reasons why I hate Windows 10. Just get out of my way and let me use my computer how I want. I'd put on my "smug Linux user" hat but to be honest my distro of choice (Ubuntu) has Amazon search integrated by default. The only saving grace is that it can be easily, completely, and permanently removed with just a couple of commands. Seriously considering a Macbook for my next computer at this point.

That amazon integration is finally being removed!

https://fossbytes.com/ubuntu-20-04-lts-drops-amazon-web-app/

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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post #21

Reminder that “New” Microsoft Edge is just Chrone with different spyware. So yeah, I’m still using Firefox thanks.

I’ve heard that it still contacts google domains (probably because msft didn’t replace everything), so it’s more like google AND Microsoft spyware.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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> Many of those who commented in the linked reddit thread actually praise Microsoft Edge, explaining that they already installing the new browser and it’s just as good as Chrome or Firefox. And of course, many remind that it’s possible to disable suggestions in the Start menu to block such “ads” from showing up again. Gotta wonder if that’s astroturfing.

No, from experience the users are often earnest in their madness.

But you can keep your faith in humanity a little bit, since this was posted on the windows 10 subreddit.

To their defense, Chrome and Firefox both have bad settings menues that slowly adjust themselves to match Edges horribleness. And it is not only power users complaining about the mess.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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One of the many reasons why I hate Windows 10. Just get out of my way and let me use my computer how I want. I'd put on my "smug Linux user" hat but to be honest my distro of choice (Ubuntu) has Amazon search integrated by default. The only saving grace is that it can be easily, completely, and permanently removed with just a couple of commands. Seriously considering a Macbook for my next computer at this point.

My "smug Linux user" hat made me install Arch Linux on my private desktop. Still using ubuntu on my laptop and windows (urgh) at work. But also strongly considering Macbook for my next laptop.
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