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The Gap Between Rich and Poor Americans' Health Is Widening

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Re: The Gap Between Rich and Poor Americans' Health Is Widening

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Keep pushing against the poor means the pendulum swing only gonna be more drastic

That's what I believe. Maybe it won't be a French Revolution type reaction, but it will continue to radicalize people, as the gap widens and magnitude and time.

Re: The Gap Between Rich and Poor Americans' Health Is Widening

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edit: type 2 Diabetes is a preventable condition, please see my parent edit. Even if it wasn't preventable, apparently only 20% of the disparity is due to unequal healthcare. We don't need better health care. We just need people to care about their health. to the people commenting that t1 is not preventable.. yes. I know that. I also know that type 2 is 23x more common in the US so it's really a nitpick imo: http://d…

Newsflash - type 2 diabetes can also affect those who are and always were of healthy weight and diet. You can't just make health problems insignificant blaming.

Americans who manage to avoid knowing that they have Type 1 diabetes long enough to eventually be misdiagnosed as having Type 2 diabetes are a testament to the failure of America's healthcare. These types of cases should be nonexistent in any country with modern healthcare.

Re: The Gap Between Rich and Poor Americans' Health Is Widening

#33
post #5

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Unhealthy foods are cheaper than healthy foods, partially due to sugar subsidies. This is what happens when corporations run the government. They lobby for things that are beneficial to their bottom line rather than what's better for the well being of the population.

Processed unhealthy foods are cheaper than processed healthy(er) foods. Beans and grains are cheap. Staple fruits and vegetables are cheap. Chicken is cheap (especially dark meat). Eggs are cheap. You can feed a family of 4 a very healthy diet for ~$100 a month if you're willing to put in the work sourcing and cooking. That's the crux of the issue, though. Food deserts combined with a lack of nutritional and culinary…

Lack of knowledge is one prt, but also convenience plays a big role. Cooking is considered a household chore, and life should be easy. The neighborhood store doesn't offer raw ingredients to cook, and you need weekly planning to stock up on this when you drive to the big store outside of town. You get everything processed and sugared up right around the corner every day.

Re: The Gap Between Rich and Poor Americans' Health Is Widening

#34
post #31
post #6

Keep pushing against the poor means the pendulum swing only gonna be more drastic

That's what I believe. Maybe it won't be a French Revolution type reaction, but it will continue to radicalize people, as the gap widens and magnitude and time.

Except this time the whole population of the planet is connected in near real-time, and the movement won’t be confined to one country.

Re: The Gap Between Rich and Poor Americans' Health Is Widening

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Being healthy is cheap as can be, but the gap is indeed increasing. One need only spend 10 minutes at their favorite discount grocer checkout line to see why. I'm not sure what the answer is, but it's very sad. Why are we destroying our bodies? edit: this quote is getting at it, but seems to ignore the real problem. > Research shows that health care accounts for only 10% to 20% of overall health outcomes > when patie…

It's "cheap" if your labor is valued. I imagine the relationship between health consequences and income could somewhat be related to having multiple jobs, long hours, and being too tired to prioritize health after a long day.

That fast food looks quick, convenient and affordable when you're going from one job to another and don't have much time or the additional money to spend on healthier fast casual eating options.

I do not disagree that whole fruits and vegetables are, by and large, cheap and ubiquitous. If the health outcomes were tied to "cheap and ubiquitous" produce, we'd be off the charts. Yet, here we are.

My point is workers who are barely scraping by are disadvantaged to not have the flexibility that higher-income earners do, to actually have the time/energy to cook a healthy meal. Or pay someone else to do it. They end up opting for meals that don't offer the macronutrient composition they need (e.g., frequently the issue is overconsumption of carbs), and are lacking in micronutrients as well (because there aren't enough fruit/vegetable servings in their diet).

Re: The Gap Between Rich and Poor Americans' Health Is Widening

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Unpopular hypothesis: Executive function is causally correlated with health and wealth.

This isn't an actual contribution, it's trolling.

Future executive function is highly correlated with high socio-economic status of childhood.

Re: The Gap Between Rich and Poor Americans' Health Is Widening

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This doesn't really make sense to me at all.

The friends I have who are 'poor' have free or subsidized health care and get more to spend on groceries a month than what I can afford.

They go see the Dr. on the drop of a dime for any little thing. We are not talking 1 or 2 people here either. I have several that are this way.

What gives? They don't seem in bad heath really, but do kinda eat like crap. They will load their pantry up with mostly junk.

Re: The Gap Between Rich and Poor Americans' Health Is Widening

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That's right. Corporations are forcing people to stuff themselves with potato chips, Captain crunch and pop.

They literally pay people to market these things to children. You actually name check a 44% sugar cereal that has a cartoon character as a mascot! The person who invented the flavor described it as having a quality she called "want-more-ishness".

So you are saying parents are at the mercy of the whims of their children when it comes to buying food?

Re: The Gap Between Rich and Poor Americans' Health Is Widening

#39
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unhealthy foods are cheaper than healthy foods, partially due to sugar subsidies. This is what happens when corporations run the government. They lobby for things that are beneficial to their bottom line rather than what's better for the well being of the population.

Processed unhealthy foods are cheaper than processed healthy(er) foods. Beans and grains are cheap. Staple fruits and vegetables are cheap. Chicken is cheap (especially dark meat). Eggs are cheap. You can feed a family of 4 a very healthy diet for ~$100 a month if you're willing to put in the work sourcing and cooking. That's the crux of the issue, though. Food deserts combined with a lack of nutritional and culinary…

I have a few friends on the poverty line. They all live in houses and apartments without access to a working kitchen. Many rented rooms don't come with kitchen "privileges." In addition they work 60+ hours a week making time consuming food preparation less practical.

The result is a lot of cheap pre-packaged food and fast food.

Re: The Gap Between Rich and Poor Americans' Health Is Widening

#40
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They literally pay people to market these things to children. You actually name check a 44% sugar cereal that has a cartoon character as a mascot! The person who invented the flavor described it as having a quality she called "want-more-ishness".

So you are saying parents are at the mercy of the whims of their children when it comes to buying food?

You choose your battles. You won't win every one.
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